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I agree that for bulk downloading (and, in my case, import to Lightroom CC) direct connection from camera or SD card is the easiest solution. And I realise that many people only want to download images back home or near a laptop or desktop, which is fine. 

I carry a camera with me at all times; sometimes it's on my smartphone, but more often it's the CL+18-56. I use it in the same way that many people use smartphones, for quick capture of things I see, and uploading to social media, or sending to friends and family - on the spot and at the time. I could use a smartphone, but the CL is more versatile and has better IQ. If I could easily download to my phone (including LR CC) I would use the CL for preference. Leica Fotos has the functionality to do this perfectly, but does not have the performance.

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55 minutes ago, ramarren said:

Indeed. I was going to say something like that but you beat me to it. :)

Computer programming is not what us old-timers knew. The contemporary term is 'coding', using library routines, algorithms in a salad that works, or not. Most coders have not the expertise to know how their outcomes work or not but they persist looking for 'adequate'. They are Lego builders. And that is how it will be forever forward.

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, pico said:

Computer programming is not what us old-timers knew. The contemporary term is 'coding', using library routines, algorithms in a salad that works, or not. Most coders have not the expertise to know how their outcomes work or not but they persist looking for 'adequate'. They are Lego builders. And that is how it will be forever forward.

Well, somewhere along the line, someone's got to make the fundamental blocks. Those are the software engineers I worked with for all those years. :)

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As an Apple Beta tester, I quite often see basic problems and think: "How on earth could they have let that howler out into the semi-public domain in that state?' I fear that trying to get iOS apps to run well in the OSX environment will be like trying to teach a fish to ride a bicycle. I am also worried that it may involve degrading the generally excellent OSX operating system to more of a tablet operating system, in order to achieve compatibility. 

Before I retired, I spent 40 years fighting with computer companies, their programmers and programming bureaux to get them to do what I wanted or needed and not what they envisaged. I quickly realised that "we will sort that little glitch out in a couple of days, with an upgrade" was one of the world's great lies. I even taught myself RPG2, 3 and Unix programming languages, so that I knew when these so called experts from IBM and the computer bureau we used, were talking garbage. Finally we sacked both IBM and the bureau and ended up writing our own paper free office routines. 

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4 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

As an Apple Beta tester, I quite often see basic problems and think: "How on earth could they have let that howler out into the semi-public domain in that state?' I fear that trying to get iOS apps to run well in the OSX environment will be like trying to teach a fish to ride a bicycle. I am also worried that it may involve degrading the generally excellent OSX operating system to more of a tablet operating system, in order to achieve compatibility. ...

In the case of iOS and macOS, the foundations of the OS are actually very much the same. It's more a matter of fit to the specific hardware environment, which frameworks are included, and the upper-end user interaction model pursued. Apple's "tablet OS" was derived from Mac OS X... :)

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58 minutes ago, scott kirkpatrick said:

RPG?

It was the programming language used by IBM Mini computers types 34, 36 & 38. We used smart terminals, basically modified IBM PS2 PCs, running a version of Unix with hardware RPG communication cards in them. 

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30 minutes ago, scott kirkpatrick said:

I haven't heard RPG mentioned since the1970s.  It stands for Report Generating Language, and like Cobol, can do more than just print reports. But I guess these things never go away.

The company I was a director of, was still using RPG3 on IBM 38's when I left to set up my own company in 1996. I then used a Bull computer running Linux at the new company, for our central system, with smart terminals running Windows 95 and Linux terminal emulators. 

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33 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

I then used a Bull computer running Linux at the new company, for our central system, with smart terminals running Windows 95 and Linux terminal emulators.

 I remember. A lot of rebooting WinDoze 95, and waiting, waiting. Linux emulators are like painting lipstick on a chicken.

 

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8 hours ago, pico said:

 I remember. A lot of rebooting WinDoze 95, and waiting, waiting. Linux emulators are like painting lipstick on a chicken.

 

Jac, 

That is why as soon as I retired, I moved over to Mac, running OS-X Jaguar 10.2 at the time.

Actually the Bull/Dell Linux terminal emulators worked far better than the IBM RPG ones of the previous generation. At my company, we quickly changed from the buggy Win 95 to Win 98, which was a considerable improvement. 

On the original point, nothing heard from Leica. 

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