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19 hours ago, RMF said:

FYI- some (most) pre-asph v2 will focus closer than 1m; my 1966 v1/v2 transition pre-asph has a MFD right around .75’ish.

I’ve had a similar internal debate about these lenses and decided to just gave up and gave in, picking up representatives of each for my safe keeping (v4 German, v1 8e Cron, and a pre-asph Lux) 😃. The real challenge now is which one to use when I’m out shooting…the v4 is compact, lightweight, and very quick to focus, and in real life usage the haptics of the lens is really hard to match.

 

 

Well then I’ll be looking for a v2 pre asph  then… if you decide to sell one of them!

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Am 15.12.2022 um 22:40 schrieb CHP:

What are your thoughts now on the Lux vs Cron 35?

It depends what version of the Summilux 35 you speaking of . The late germans have more contrast. I had two of them, and it is true. I had an early v2 which rendered medium contrast. My 1984 is in between, just right.

I used the Summicron 35 v4 (King of Bokeh /late German version) for many years.

(on film) and on digital (M9). What I found, it is not true at all that they render the same from f2 on. The Summicron is more modern and more contrast. Its harsher in rendering. Color rendition is different. Summicron cooler ,Summilux is warmer, with a more gentle contrast. The bokeh is much nicer on the Summilux. the summicron can block shadows easily, while the Summilux does not. 

Its a matter of taste, but in generell, the Summilux have a different fingerprint than the Summicron, this is true for 35 and 50, pre ASPH or ASPH.

We Leica users tend to overthink this though, so take this as a precaution. You might loose the essence of capturing light and moments. For me, I like the Summilux lenses better than the Summicron, so I sold all my Summicrons (35/50). There is one Summicron, that fits with the Summilux, which is Summicron 28.

Other users will tell you exactly the opposite. Enjoy what you have.

 

 

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Mine is from the late 80's.  The one Leica lens I've owned that is unimpressive, at least on B&W film.  Nice when stopped down but just so soft, not much contrast, when wide open.  Much rather have the Voigtlander Nokton.  A little sharper, more character in my experience.  Each to their own I suppose.  Probably a digital capture changes all of this.  Digital sensors make every lens look decent.  

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On 12/17/2022 at 8:30 PM, TheBestSLIsALeicaflex said:

Mine is from the late 80's.  The one Leica lens I've owned that is unimpressive, at least on B&W film.  Nice when stopped down but just so soft, not much contrast, when wide open.  Much rather have the Voigtlander Nokton.  A little sharper, more character in my experience.  Each to their own I suppose.  Probably a digital capture changes all of this.  Digital sensors make every lens look decent.  

Mine is a Canadian one from the 80s and I like it very much, especially on B&W film. I have no experience with the Norkon though but really love this one.

We all have different taste :)

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M2, Summilux 35 v2, Delta 3200 (dd-x), scanned negative

I haven't printed this particular image yet but I posted a few scan made from prints earlier on this thread.

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Am 17.12.2022 um 13:30 schrieb TheBestSLIsALeicaflex:

Mine is from the late 80's.  The one Leica lens I've owned that is unimpressive, at least on B&W film.  Nice when stopped down but just so soft, not much contrast, when wide open.  Much rather have the Voigtlander Nokton.  A little sharper, more character in my experience.  Each to their own I suppose.  Probably a digital capture changes all of this.  Digital sensors make every lens look decent.  

Depends all on condition of the glas. If clean and calibrated, this lens is amazing sharp. It is wonderful on B&W film especially...I had the Nokton as well, S.C VII, and I do not like the contrast. I mainly work with film though...

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M10-R, 35 Lux pre-asph V1, f1.4.

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Just to show a few Shoots, how sharp my V2 is (its from 1983 not 84 as I thought)

HP5

1. f2 at MFD

2. f2.8

3. f 1.4

4. f2 at MFD

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HP5

1. f 5.6

2. f 2

3. f 5.6

4. f 2

5. f 4

6. f 1.4

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2 from today morning & night @ MFD which for this Germany copy is 0.75

 

 

 

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M10 w/35mm 1.4 Summilux Pre ASPH

at f/1.4


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M10 w/35mm 1.4 Summilux Pre ASPH

at f/1.8

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M10 w/35mm 1.4 Summilux Pre ASPH

 

at f/2

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M10-R with 35 Lux Pre-Asph V2 WO.

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35 Summilux pre asph v2 1970 (ex cine 0,60m close focus version Leica M converted) on M2 with Portra 160

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Same as above

 

 

 

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