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16 minutes ago, Romeomcdallan said:

how about now? first filter only, second filter and hood

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Better, thank you. Looks like your filter is thin enough to prevent the hard corners but it still induces a bit more vignetting.

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I have version 2, its a very interesting lens....  not that bad depending on the copy at 1.4, but closing down it really makes it sharp. You can think of it as a very sharp lens at 2.0, that has the c

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54 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

Better, thank you. Looks like your filter is thin enough to prevent the hard corners but it still induces a bit more vignetting.

 

1 hour ago, Romeomcdallan said:

how about now? first filter only, second filter and hood

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Interesting how this is way more apparent on digital than on film.

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3 hours ago, Romeomcdallan said:

yes tested wide open, you can see the glow on the picture with the bridge ass well as the Christmas tree. Also the bath picture is wide open.

maybe it's because I used it on film rather than digital (apart from the Christmas tree)?

 

So, the first is the B+W XS-PRO 007 filter alone and the second filter + Round hood (12486). Perhaps your filter is thinner than the B+W ?

 

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vor 18 Stunden schrieb 28framelines:

Question for those with this lens: I’m considering the new SR re-release, but I’m concerned about the vignetting that is seen when the filter and hood are mounted at the same time, as seen from Fred Miranda’s posts. For those with older versions of the lens, how crucial is having that filter (or I guess, since many can’t get a filter on the lens, how crucial is not having a filter)? Do many not use a hood either? I’d consider either of: not using the hood, but with a filter, or not use a filter, but with a hood.

beside the filter....I find the new SR to be a modern lens, it lacks the vintage look. I considered to buy SR re release because the v2 almost comes at a similar price nowadays in good condition. But I have the ASPh pre FLE for modern rendering, so I got the v2.

 

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On 9/10/2019 at 7:07 PM, evikne said:

I have the opportunity to trade my 35 Summicron v.4 for a 35 Summilux v.2 in very good condition. I'm very in doubt, maybe this is a stupid decision, because I am very satisfied with my Summicron. But since I sold my 35 Lux FLE, I have missed the extra f-stop (I'm a bokeh lover after all). I'll lose the 0.7 m near limit and I am not very fan of the "glow". But I have seen in picture examples in this thread that it's possible to "tame" it with the right lighting conditions and some post processing.

I know that nobody else can make this decision. There are pros and cons with both lenses, but it's very tempting to try something new. After a while I'll know if my choice was right or wrong. But if it turns out to be wrong, it's always possible to trade it for another Summicron.

What are your thoughts now on the Lux vs Cron 35?

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FYI- some (most) pre-asph v2 will focus closer than 1m; my 1966 v1/v2 transition pre-asph has a MFD right around .75’ish.

I’ve had a similar internal debate about these lenses and decided to just gave up and gave in, picking up representatives of each for my safe keeping (v4 German, v1 8e Cron, and a pre-asph Lux) 😃. The real challenge now is which one to use when I’m out shooting…the v4 is compact, lightweight, and very quick to focus, and in real life usage the haptics of the lens is really hard to match.

 

 

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4 hours ago, evikne said:

Well, three years have passed since then, and I have settled down with my 35mm Summilux pre-ASPH. This is my only 35mm now, and I love it very much.

What year is your pre-asph? I have the cron kob and wonder if I can be as happy with the lux pre asph —

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What year is your pre-asph? I have the cron kob and wonder if I can be as happy with the lux pre asph —

Mine is from 1979, made in Canada. I've never been so concerned about year and country and such, but a slightly shorter MFD, which some versions seem to have, would certainly have been nice (mine goes to approx. 89 cm, by the way).

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3 hours ago, evikne said:

Mine is from 1979, made in Canada. I've never been so concerned about year and country and such, but a slightly shorter MFD, which some versions seem to have, would certainly have been nice (mine goes to approx. 89 cm, by the way).

I'm not concerned with the country but do. consider the year of manufacture, the newer the better, not sure when the last (newest, most recent) coating starts to be applied.

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I'm not concerned with the country but do. consider the year of manufacture, the newer the better, not sure when the last (newest, most recent) coating starts to be applied.

I would guess with the production change to Germany ones (1989 / 1990 ?) but that’s always been only an assumption.  Also you have just made me wonder ... did production then run concurrently in Canada and Germany for this lens , or move from Canada to Germany. 
 

Disclaimer: I’m don’t buy into the “[insert Germany or Canada] is better than [insert Germany or Canada], I think they both have their pros and cons for this lens, from what I read.  But we do know this lens very likely went through a change in coating at this point which changed rendering characteristics, if only slightly. 

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On 12/7/2022 at 5:40 PM, evikne said:

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M10 w/35mm Summilux pre-ASPH v2, f/2.0

I like the rendering, here, but would be curious to see how it would look wide open. Have you taken different shots at different aperture? 

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10 minutes ago, CHP said:

I like the rendering, here, but would be curious to see how it would look wide open. Have you taken different shots at different aperture? 

Sorry, I only took this one picture at f/2. I guess that wide open it would become quite a bit more fuzzy, especially at the edges.

But I'm sure many here can show you pictures taken wide open to show what it looks like.

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1 minute ago, evikne said:

Sorry, I only took this one picture at f/2. I guess that wide open it would become quite a bit more fuzzy, especially at the edges.

But I'm sure many here can show you pictures taken wide open to show what it looks like.

How often do you shoot the lux 35 wide open, and when do you do so knowing the results will be good based on the lighting, etc.

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13 minutes ago, CHP said:

How often do you shoot the lux 35 wide open, and when do you do so knowing the results will be good based on the lighting, etc.

In low contrast lighting situations, one can avoid much of the glow when shooting wide open. But it is never very predictable, at least not to me. So I only shoot wide open if I want a very "classic" look, or at least that I am prepared that I might get such a result. 😉

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