grober Posted July 9, 2007 Share #21 Posted July 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Interesting topic but, photography aside, oh that Beechcraft! Surely the Leica of general aviation's small, personal aircraft category. -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Hi grober, Take a look here M8 and a Shift lens. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest guy_mancuso Posted July 9, 2007 Share #22 Posted July 9, 2007 I know , nice plane and he turbo charged it also. 2002 with about 700 hours on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted July 9, 2007 Share #23 Posted July 9, 2007 This ´might be a stupid question. But you mentioned a Nikkor to M-Adapter above. I would be interested to know if there is a M to Nikon-Adapter somewhere, so I could use my M-lenses on my D200??? But if I could also use the Nikkors on my M, this would be just as nice Greetings from Würzburg, Germany Jochen Jochen, I think its not possible since the lenses would be to far from the "sensor-plane" if used on a SLR. I might be wrong though. cheers, Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted July 9, 2007 Share #24 Posted July 9, 2007 i think it is important that we start looking for some shifts for the M system as this system is 12k strong now and more folks will be looking for some solutions here. It may not be the most ideal way to work but it does get it done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted July 9, 2007 Share #25 Posted July 9, 2007 1. As everyone probably knows, the full frame Canons are the best solution for this as pretty much every shift lens in existence can work on it and you get the full 24mm wide angle result. 2. But as Guy proved, where there is a will there is a way. And the Canon lenses have auto diaphragms and electronic camera interface, which is a big plus for handheld shooting compared to working stopped down. 3. My only complaint with the Canon TSE lenses is that it is too easy to accidently have them tilted a little. I'd like to see a way to positively lock them as I almost only use the shift feature on my 24 and 45. 1. Agreed, thought about that again recently as I was writing that recent review of tilt/shift lenses. 2. Agreed again. One must admire Guy's pluck. He's making that M8 do all kinds of things through sheer determination. 3. Even with the lockscrew turned in? The lens shouldn't budge on the tilt/swing axes when locked down. Tell me more. As I wrote about in the review, I strongly agree with the value (here expressed by Guy) of using T/S lenses as opposed to correcting in PS, etc. Not only does one need to throw away resolution with the latter but he or she must also use a wider lens (to allow for the areas that will need to be cropped away). In small spaces, that can be a big deal. Moreover, a T/S lens lets the photographer (and on-site architects, art directors, etc.) see the results as they evolve. Being able to see those results while the shoot is going on can be very valuable. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted July 9, 2007 Share #26 Posted July 9, 2007 Well have to admit if you pick a system to work in you really need to get as much as you can out of it. We all know the limits of the M8 but that does not mean you have to always accept them. you have to try and work around them in some way that will work for you. As i said maybe not the most ideal way but we can't just sit on our thimbs either. Now if i had to work as much like this as Alan than my choices maybe different and totally understand his work style and load and what he uses makes sense. But we need to keep a open mind and experiment also in any system and frankly that is much as being a photographer than anything else. We are problem solvers and our job or passion is to make a image work as best we can and that involves many things and one being able to push the envelope and explore. Being a gear head sometimes is just as important as being a great shooter it is all about getting a shot , knowing your gear and it's capibilities is extremely important in that process. So now we have a system that we all know can deliver excellent images and how to push this camera beyond what it was typically thought to do is something that i have been able to do in the commercial side and i hope folks see that it can be used like this for there work or play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted July 9, 2007 Share #27 Posted July 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3. Even with the lockscrew turned in? The lens shouldn't budge on the tilt/swing axes when locked down. Tell me more. I find it possible to move the tilt when putting camera in bag or removing it from the bag. The knob does not lock so tight as to completely prevent this. I try to check it every time but occasionally forget and shoot pictures with out of focus edges. Especially night shots where it is too dark to judge focus in the viewfinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted July 9, 2007 Share #28 Posted July 9, 2007 anyone know where i can get one of these Olympus 24mm shift lenses and teh adaptor to fit it to an M8 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlm Posted July 9, 2007 Share #29 Posted July 9, 2007 lost somewhere in my future project list is a shift adapter for the M8 and the 12 and 15 C/V lenses. might have to customize the lenses a bit to get enough room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 9, 2007 Share #30 Posted July 9, 2007 anyone know where i can get one of these Olympus 24mm shift lenses and teh adaptor to fit it to an M8 ? Richard, As an alternative, you can buy one of the very reasonably priced Hartblei Russian shift lenses in M42 and either get one of Stephen Gandy's M42 Pentax to Leica M adapters or like I have, an Elephoto M42 to Leica M adapter. The Elephoto ones are cheaper but you have to make your own device to hold in an auto diaphragm pin, if the lens in question has one. I think Stephen's adapter has this. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted July 9, 2007 Share #31 Posted July 9, 2007 Yes just the conversion from Olympus to the Leica r mount was close to 500 dollars than the R to M adapter from Novoflex was 130. but may want to look at the 28mm leica R shift also which is also a fine optical lens. There on e-bay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted July 9, 2007 Share #32 Posted July 9, 2007 I find it possible to move the tilt when putting camera in bag or removing it from the bag. The knob does not lock so tight as to completely prevent this. I try to check it every time but occasionally forget and shoot pictures with out of focus edges. Especially night shots where it is too dark to judge focus in the viewfinder. You might want to have that checked by Canon. Mine don't budge. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted July 9, 2007 Share #33 Posted July 9, 2007 lost somewhere in my future project list is a shift adapter for the M8 and the 12 and 15 C/V lenses. might have to customize the lenses a bit to get enough room. Cool, image circle is large enough? There must be some room to start with just because of the sensor crop factor. best, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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