Grain on Tri X - Shot on M7/ 35mm Summarit 2.4 Advice please

[PaulJohn]

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Compare with Delta 400. Grain is finer:

 

Delta 400 in Rodinal 1+25 by Paul Nadin, on Flickr

Edited March 9, 2018 by PaulJohn

[PaulJohn]

Not sure what happened to that last pic. Try again:

 

Delta 400 in Rodinal 1+25 by Paul Nadin, on Flickr

[Guest Nowhereman]

As others have said, the grain in the sky in the OP looks fine and not "heavy" at all. Look at these classic Ralph Gibson pictures in this NY Times article: Gibson used to overexpose Tri-X and overdevelop it in Rodinal, so that the shadows would go black.

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[friedeye]

If your other photos on this role are this dirty/dusty, I would take the negatives back to the developer/scanner and demand that they clean the negative and re-scan.  Although, what's weird here, is that the dust is black, which would be logical for a scan from a slide.  Dust on a negative scans as white. Anyone here have an idea how this could be? I'm curious.

[pico]

As others have said, the grain in the sky in the OP looks fine and not "heavy" at all. Look at these classic Ralph Gibson pictures in this NY Times article: Gibson used to overexpose Tri-X and overdevelop it in Rodinal, so that the shadows would go black.

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Respectfully, I believe he exposed normally and printed down or under-exposed and printed to higher contrast. A trivial point, certainly.

 

Gibson knew what he was doing and did it well. I regret selling his first editions. I do not understand his color work, but that is my shortcoming.

 

Thank you for bringing up his work.

Edited March 10, 2018 by pico

[Guest Nowhereman]

If that's what you believe, then you don't believe what Gibson himself writes about his own work method of that time in the Ralph Gibson chapter of his Darkroom: No.1 book published by his Lustrum Press, which presents the methods of 13 photographers. He writes, "Having learned from the lithographic process I now go directly to contrasty subject matter and expose for the narrow contrast ratio I desire. I overexpose and overdevelop and, in the process, pick up grain and contrast."

Edited March 11, 2018 by Nowhereman

[otto.f]

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Although the grain seems normal given what pico said, I do think that jpeg-scans from the drugstore often exaggerate the grain. I don’t think you’ll necessarly get this grain-impression that much if you’d print it wet.