Desperatly need a body for my Noctilux and 28mm 5.6 Summercrome

[michaelwj]

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Neil,

US$600 is one weekend on the sauce! I'm doing it wrong.

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[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Neil,

US$600 is one weekend on the sauce! I'm doing it wrong.

$600 is a cheap weekend in Bangkok mate :)

 

Neil

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Stephan

Did you have a M something before the M10...............is it "IN YOUR FACE" easier to focus than the previous M's that you may have had. I did try and get a demo M10 but that was like getting a (No don't even go there Neil) :)

 

Neil

Can't argue with that of course, although I wonder how you came to the decision to keep your M6TTL in this repsect (which I read in the I like film Thread). The M6TTL is about the worst viewfinder of them all becaue of the (sort of ) flare which was only corrected in the M7 from 284... serial numbers and higher

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Can't argue with that of course, although I wonder how you came to the decision to keep your M6TTL in this repsect (which I read in the I like film Thread). The M6TTL is about the worst viewfinder of them all becaue of the (sort of ) flare which was only corrected in the M7 from 284... serial numbers and higher

 

Its the only thing I have right now that I can screw my Noctilux into apart from my Sony and that is a piece of .........

 

My gut feeling about the M10 is I won't get it.................its sexy if your into sexy cameras and size wise its up there but something a miss.  The sensor is the same as the SL and TL2 and although the files are ok they really don't have that in your face WOW factor that the big boys have.

 

One of my mates on here recommended looking again at the XID or trying a Contact 80 f2 lens on my S007 which I may still do that as they are reasonably priced.

 

Now if I still had my MM this thread wouldn't even extinguish..........I could have screwed that onto the noctilux and had some fun with that (Not sure if that sounds okay or not) If it was coming from Gary Glitter it defiantly wouldn't :)  

 

Neil

[Peter H]

Peter

Theres also the issue of the unreliability of the M's so if I buy in the UK and have a problem then for sure Mr Woo is going to say send it to the UK and get them to fix it..............I'm okay with taking care of Mr woo, will just mean taking a weekend off of the piss and that will pay the difference

 

Neil

 

Mr Woo will take care of your camera surely.

 

I can take stuff to Ffordes for repair and they never ask where I bought it. 

[jaapv]

Anyway, I would prefer to send a camera to Wetzlar to fix, irrespective of the place where it was bought.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

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Mr Woo will take care of your camera surely.

 

I can take stuff to Ffordes for repair and they never ask where I bought it. 

 

Nearly all my Leica gear came from Ffordes to try and save a few bob.............i just feel its the right thing to do to help a mate, but like my message above I probably won't get on anyway

 

Neil

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Anyway, I would prefer to send a camera to Wetzlar to fix, irrespective of the place where it was bought.

Jaap all my S repairs and my Noctilux were done in wet behind the ears and I must say that they have treated me very well especially with my S gear (3 lenses AF failures and a replacement S007 body) after my one crapped out after shooting Yukki

 

Neil

[jaapv]

That is a fantastic find by your spell-checker: "wet behind the ears" for Wetzlar! :lol: :lol: It had me stumped for a few seconds - you couldn't make it up.

[Jeff S]

He told me that he was bringing a selection to the shop, which makes me think they are the ones for the older M

 

Yes I think I do have that, I will sometimes pick up the phone then wonder who was I going to call......

 

Neil

Besides your Alzheimer's, if you really do have astigmatism (simply blurred vision and inability to focus clearly), a common issue, then you will never be able to optimize use of M RF shooting. The good news is that it's easily corrected with glasses. (The Walter eyepiece has diopter and astigmatism correction, but I prefer glasses).

 

You also won't be able to use the old diopters on the M10. But a good dealer should have the new ones.

 

In any event, if you haven't fully corrected your vision before and during your M10 testing, please don't whine to us that M10 viewing isn't improved, or that you're not suited for the RF experience. It will just mean that you haven't taken steps to ensure best chance for success.

 

Jeff

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Besides your Alzheimer's, if you really do have astigmatism (simply blurred vision and inability to focus clearly), a common issue, then you will never be able to optimize use of M RF shooting. The good news is that it's easily corrected with glasses. (The Walter eyepiece has diopter and astigmatism correction, but I prefer glasses).

 

You also won't be able to use the old diopters on the M10. But a good dealer should have the new ones.

 

In any event, if you haven't fully corrected your vision before and during your M10 testing, please don't whine to us that M10 viewing isn't improved, or that you're not suited for the RF experience. It will just mean that you haven't taken steps to ensure best chance for success.

 

Jeff

me winning. Me winning, you’ll never here me winning about anything. As fas as my eyesight goes I believe it’s just the fact that I’m now classed as an old fart ( well I will be on the 6th December). My left eye is junk after an accident when I was nine. My right eye was 20/20 up until maybe 10 years ago and with age it’s deterioratied. Mr Woo confirms he has the M10 diopters and I will try shooting my noctulux with and without my walk about glasses. At the end of the day I would prefer wearing glasses as I look cool in glasses plus it helps me check the details of the pictures I have taken on the LCD on.

 

I’m now looking at ways to screw my noctulux onto my wife’s D810 and will order a crossover so that I can do that........... we could all be in fire a surprise here.

 

Neil

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Forgot to mention that I don’t think I have altziners yet but probably will as it’s in the family

 

Neil

[Jeff S]

The key is whether your glasses have a recent prescription that corrects for your deteriorating eyes, at least to the extent possible, including any astigmatism. That's all.

 

The other possible issue with RF focusing is lens/camera calibration, but that's only as needed after eliminating eye problems to the extent possible. You never explored that with LV on your M240.

 

Jeff

[IkarusJohn]

Neil,

 

Has it occurred to you that the advice you have received here has almost universally turned out to be right for you?

 

My advice would be to sell the Noctilux and never get another M lens. You love the S007 (til the S008 comes out) and you like your large format cameras. Look at the X1D if you want compact(ish). The X1D is almost the same size as the M10, is more ergonomic and has an EVF.

 

The M lenses work best on M cameras and the SL. You don’t want to go back there, so move on. The Noctilux will be rubbish on anything else - you’re looking for Noctilux magic, and that comes best with the SL. You don’t get “compact” with the Noctilux (though the SL & Noctilux is smaller and lighter than the S with any lens).

 

Cheers

John

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Neil,

 

Has it occurred to you that the advice you have received here has almost universally turned out to be right for you?

 

My advice would be to sell the Noctilux and never get another M lens. You love the S007 (til the S008 comes out) and you like your large format cameras. Look at the X1D if you want compact(ish). The X1D is almost the same size as the M10, is more ergonomic and has an EVF.

 

The M lenses work best on M cameras and the SL. You don’t want to go back there, so move on. The Noctilux will be rubbish on anything else - you’re looking for Noctilux magic, and that comes best with the SL. You don’t get “compact” with the Noctilux (though the SL & Noctilux is smaller and lighter than the S with any lens).

 

Cheers

John

John

I have made a booking with Mr Woo and will follow through with it, nothing ventured nothing gained.................but my heart is already saying forget the M...........been there don that. 

 

You are correct, I love my S007 and also my Chamonix cameras, with retirement just around the corner, I cant see myself flying off around the wourld like I have in the past so no need for compactness. The XiD just aint going to cut it for me unless version number 2 is a vast improvement. As for selling the M lenmses I aint going to do that either because one of these days Leica will realize that there is a need for a full frame camera that has a built in eVF and one that doesn't weigh like a brick (like the SL)

 

Neil  

[anickpick]

Neil,

 

whatever choice you make, you should definitely try the camera first before buying.

 

Personally, I doubt you would be happy with the M10 as you had serious problems focussing with the M240.

The SL is the best choice for the Noctilux. But you do not want to buy the SL again...

 

The X1D might be right for you. You could take fantastic photos of the Noctilux.

Personally I do not like the X1D lenses though (too slow and terrifying shutter sound).

 

By the time you get bored of the X1D, there might be a Leica S008 or SL2

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Neil,

 

whatever choice you make, you should definitely try the camera first before buying.

 

Personally, I doubt you would be happy with the M10 as you had serious problems focussing with the M240.

The SL is the best choice for the Noctilux. But you do not want to buy the SL again...

 

The X1D might be right for you. You could take fantastic photos of the Noctilux.

Personally I do not like the X1D lenses though (too slow and terrifying shutter sound).

 

By the time you get bored of the X1D, there might be a Leica S008 or SL2

Cheers Bobby

[IkarusJohn]

Having the following digital Leicas - TL2, Monochrom & SL - while I may be tempted by an EVF based M camera or a new M-D, I think my interests lie elsewhere in the long run. The 135mm format is really where the best images and gear are available at reasonable cost. The only fly in the ointment is the X1D.

 

If (when) Hasselblad up the format of the X1D (a 100MP 6x6 sensor would be hard to resist, if they could manage heat and all the other praticalities), I’d be very interested, particularly if they produced a fast 80mm and a really nice wide.

 

For the moment, the SL and Noctilux is my walkabout camera, with 28 Summilux in a pocket. For outings where I just want a camera better than my iPhone, then it’s the TL2 with 28 Summaron (effective 42mm - very useful).

 

I think your Noctilux will end up in a dry box, Neil. No need to buy the 28 Summerchrome (is that the Summaron, Summicron or the Summilux, out of interest? - minor details, I know, but they are actually very different).

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[Jeff S]

Remember to try the EVF with the M. Not my thing, but maybe yours, with the Noctilux. At that point, though, the SL is hardly bigger and with better EVF.

 

Jeff

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Remember to try the EVF with the M. Not my thing, but maybe yours, with the Noctilux. At that point, though, the SL is hardly bigger and with better EVF.

 

Jeff

 

Will do buddy

 

Neil