Guest guy_mancuso Posted June 29, 2007 Share #41 Posted June 29, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sure , heard that line before . Already used my friend better come up with a better line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted June 29, 2007 Share #42 Posted June 29, 2007 It is called famous last words, Guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share #43 Posted June 29, 2007 How about "I am definitely not going to buy one"? I am not in funds sufficiently to spend yet another three or four grand, this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted June 29, 2007 Share #44 Posted June 29, 2007 Still not working. ROTFLMAO Just go try it and see if it fits. If not than give it back or at least try too. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted June 29, 2007 Share #45 Posted June 29, 2007 How about "I am definitely not going to buy one"? I am not in funds sufficiently to spend yet another three or four grand, this year. That's what I said as they eased the credit card out of my trembling, clammy hands. Larry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 29, 2007 Share #46 Posted June 29, 2007 That's what I said as they eased the credit card out of my trembling, clammy hands. The Leica M8: the crack coccaine of the 35 mm camera world. One taste and you're hooked for life. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted June 29, 2007 Share #47 Posted June 29, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Leica M8: the crack coccaine of the 35 mm camera world. One taste and you're hooked for life. I actually think it's quite hard for a devoted SLR shooter to fall in love with a rangefinder, Leica will have to extend their trial period to say ... at least a month. Drug addicts rarely get hooked after only the first try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 29, 2007 Share #48 Posted June 29, 2007 How about "I am definitely not going to buy one"? I am not in funds sufficiently to spend yet another three or four grand, this year. Right to the top, just below "Nothing wrong with Aeroflot".... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share #49 Posted June 29, 2007 I actually think it's quite hard for a devoted SLR shooter to fall in love with a rangefinder, Leica will have to extend their trial period to say ... at least a month. Drug addicts rarely get hooked after only the first try. But, I already own an M2. Hence the letter from Leica UK. Unlike drug dealers, they don't offer the first hit cheap, unfortunately... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwf Posted June 29, 2007 Share #50 Posted June 29, 2007 Late last winter, as I was being rebitten by the Leica bug, I concluded, first, that the M8 was mostly past teething problems, and, second, since I already had an M6 and a couple lenses, all I'd really need is the M8 body and, well, one lens so I could get the two I had coded for "free." Talk about slippery slopes and blind entry thereupon! But even so, I like the M8 more every time I use it, so it really was not, at least from my perspective, that risky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artichoke Posted June 29, 2007 Share #51 Posted June 29, 2007 Unlike drug dealers, they don't offer the first hit cheap, unfortunately... this is because the folks in Solms are highly ethical:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted June 30, 2007 Share #52 Posted June 30, 2007 oh, and Andy, be sure to post pics from your NEW M8! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share #53 Posted June 30, 2007 Actually, come to think of it, the M2 was a "cheap" hook into the R4/R8/DMR/lenses.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted June 30, 2007 Share #54 Posted June 30, 2007 Jamie - Thanks for your kind words. Here is another one for you by candlelight, I think shadow details are readily available here. R8/DMR 35mm f/2 Summicron-R, 400 ISO, C1 Pro. Cheers, Conrad, yes, this is a good example of what (even) the DMR can do with enough light and at low enough ISO. This shot is really quite good in the lower quartertones where there's still a lot of spill from the candles; but then you've got a brick wall, I believe (which, again for this shot, is just fine). BTW--I absolutely love the upper midtones and near-highlights; the DMR rocks for that, and bests, IMO, the M8 near-highlights under very extreme conditions (IOW I love the very film-like way the highs blow out. Sounds silly, but after struggling with Canons and their "rainbowing sensor", it's important)! But, in general, the main differences here is that if this was an M8 640 shot I could push it +2 EV / "stops" in C1 and recover a lot of information I couldn't with the DMR. Under tungsten, this is even more important, because the blue channel is usually noisiest, and very definitely in my DMR, once you WB, the resulting file can be a real mess even at 400 (though more usually at 800) without major noise reduction surgery. In other words, you have virtually no room for error in the shadows at 400 or above, and not much below that, and that's just not the way the M8 works. It's got yards of shadow detail, even as high as 640 and 1250 (though at 2500 it is more like shooting the DMR at 800, and the DMR is a little better there). Another way to put that is I could get as good or better shadow detail out of a similar M8 candlelight shot at ISO 1250, and I would say definitely better if we stick to white balanced tungsten light. That takes nothing away from the DMR, btw. I just think the files from the M8 hold up as well as the DMR, with all the caveats I just mentioned (and some more about processing). So maybe we're saying the same thing: I think the DMR is my favourite file to process for speed and ease of superb results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmsr Posted June 30, 2007 Share #55 Posted June 30, 2007 Andy, I'm looking forward to seeing "YOUR" M8 pictures. Best, Ray Jamie - I don't own a DMR but played with one for a few weeks on loan, and agree 100% with your comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodda Posted June 30, 2007 Share #56 Posted June 30, 2007 Yes go for it.I haev A3 + prints from Canon 5D and Leica using their benchmark photos and the Leica is more pleasing. These in the flesh pictures clinched it for me PS i waiting a year before taking the plung. You will always need a SLR for fast/animal photography/macro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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