Adam Bonn Posted March 5, 2021 Share #1181 Posted March 5, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 hours ago, Ray Vonn said: Might be just me but the Summarit seems to render a bit (but not 100%) like a Zeiss lens with those colours? Maybe, I don’t really know. I only have one Zeiss lens (the 21mm) and I haven’t compared them. I also have a CV35/1.7 and compared to the Summarit that lens is sharper, has much less field curvature (or distortion I’m not sure which) and much more vignetting The colours in this are very M9 made up in that the red building on the left isn’t such a deep shade of red in real life and iirc the blue building is less aqua coloured 180 deg from where I stood to take this is the sea, so the light there can play out very differently on different days All that said, I tend to find that I often favour a cooler WB on my m9 edits, and I’m led to believe that Zeiss rendering is cooler than Leica’s so perhaps that’s what your noticing? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ray Vonn Posted March 5, 2021 Share #1182 Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Adam Bonn said: Maybe, I don’t really know. I only have one Zeiss lens (the 21mm) and I haven’t compared them. I also have a CV35/1.7 and compared to the Summarit that lens is sharper, has much less field curvature (or distortion I’m not sure which) and much more vignetting The colours in this are very M9 made up in that the red building on the left isn’t such a deep shade of red in real life and iirc the blue building is less aqua coloured 180 deg from where I stood to take this is the sea, so the light there can play out very differently on different days All that said, I tend to find that I often favour a cooler WB on my m9 edits, and I’m led to believe that Zeiss rendering is cooler than Leica’s so perhaps that’s what your noticing? Yes it could be the M9, I just noticed how the colours were generally a bit more punchy. I do like that aspect of the Zeiss lenses which made them, or at least I thought made them, differ from Leica lenses. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted March 5, 2021 Share #1183 Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray Vonn said: Yes it could be the M9, I just noticed how the colours were generally a bit more punchy here's some examples! (just screen grabs this time) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This was shot at the same time (May 2019) as my OP and with the summarit (fun fact: bar WB and perspective correction 🙄 this is DNG - JPG zero edits!) Next we have the same scene (more or less) but shot in Dec 2020, but with the 35mm 1.7 Ultron Now as well as being different lenses, we have different years, and different times of the year. and another thing... these buildings face the sea.. like maybe 70 meters from the water. The sea is the north Atlantic. It can be harsh... I wonder if the biggest difference is not just the lenses but that in the second shot, the building has had an extra 18months of wear and tear thrown at it by the sea! and here's two more shots from Dec2020 (I thought I might have corresponding images from the May2019 visit, but no, still sod it - I'll post these anyway) So what's the take away from this? Well pretty much zilch really!! Two sets of photos taken 18 months apart are no comparison at all and Whatever the lens I really am a fan of the M9 rendering (OMMV) 1 hour ago, Ray Vonn said: I do like that aspect of the Zeiss lenses which made them, or at least I thought made them, differ from Leica lenses. Last Monday I bought my second Zeiss lens, (which isn't here yet, tracking says Tuesday) so in the fullness of time I might have more of an opinion on Zeiss/Leica rendering (not that anyone else need care to hear it of course!) What a good excuse this has been to post several M9 pics at once 🙂 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This was shot at the same time (May 2019) as my OP and with the summarit (fun fact: bar WB and perspective correction 🙄 this is DNG - JPG zero edits!) Next we have the same scene (more or less) but shot in Dec 2020, but with the 35mm 1.7 Ultron Now as well as being different lenses, we have different years, and different times of the year. and another thing... these buildings face the sea.. like maybe 70 meters from the water. The sea is the north Atlantic. It can be harsh... I wonder if the biggest difference is not just the lenses but that in the second shot, the building has had an extra 18months of wear and tear thrown at it by the sea! and here's two more shots from Dec2020 (I thought I might have corresponding images from the May2019 visit, but no, still sod it - I'll post these anyway) So what's the take away from this? Well pretty much zilch really!! Two sets of photos taken 18 months apart are no comparison at all and Whatever the lens I really am a fan of the M9 rendering (OMMV) Last Monday I bought my second Zeiss lens, (which isn't here yet, tracking says Tuesday) so in the fullness of time I might have more of an opinion on Zeiss/Leica rendering (not that anyone else need care to hear it of course!) What a good excuse this has been to post several M9 pics at once 🙂 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4154147'>More sharing options...
Cobram Posted March 5, 2021 Share #1184 Posted March 5, 2021 M9 rendering is special. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted March 5, 2021 Share #1185 Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Cobram said: M9 rendering is special. it is. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! But the other digital M (the one M9 shooters love to hate 🤣) isn't so completely different as some folks think! (this is late Dec2020, so again from a different time, also a different camera - but the same CV35 though!) edit: editing them side by side (and remember they're not shot at the same time) we can get the look quite close Edited March 5, 2021 by Adam Bonn 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! But the other digital M (the one M9 shooters love to hate 🤣) isn't so completely different as some folks think! (this is late Dec2020, so again from a different time, also a different camera - but the same CV35 though!) edit: editing them side by side (and remember they're not shot at the same time) we can get the look quite close ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4154163'>More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted March 5, 2021 Share #1186 Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Adam Bonn said: Last Monday I bought my second Zeiss lens, (which isn't here yet, tracking says Tuesday) so in the fullness of time I might have more of an opinion on Zeiss/Leica rendering (not that anyone else need care to hear it of course!) I look forward to that, I’m about 90% sure your conclusions will generally be the same as mine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted March 5, 2021 Share #1187 Posted March 5, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 12 minutes ago, Ray Vonn said: I look forward to that, I’m about 90% sure your conclusions will generally be the same as mine. Thanks, I'm looking forward to it too! I just need lockdown to ease so that I'm allowed out further than the shadow of my building !!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted March 5, 2021 Share #1188 Posted March 5, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M-E 220 with J8/I22 hybrid. 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M-E 220 with J8/I22 hybrid. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4154401'>More sharing options...
Topsy Posted March 7, 2021 Share #1189 Posted March 7, 2021 One from yesterday's exercise walk, M9 21mm Elmarit. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4155482'>More sharing options...
Beena22 Posted March 7, 2021 Share #1190 Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) M9 with Voigtlander Nokton 50mm 1.5 II @F5.6 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 7, 2021 by Beena22 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4155629'>More sharing options...
billh Posted March 7, 2021 Share #1191 Posted March 7, 2021 M9 - APO 90f2.0 at f5.6/ This is so much richer than the sane thing from the Sony A7r and Zeiss 135 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4155886'>More sharing options...
surfmanjoe Posted March 8, 2021 Share #1192 Posted March 8, 2021 M9P + Zeiss Planar 50mm F2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4155985'>More sharing options...
boojum Posted March 8, 2021 Share #1193 Posted March 8, 2021 10 hours ago, billh said: M9 - APO 90f2.0 at f5.6/ This is so much richer than the sane thing from the Sony A7r and Zeiss 135 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It would be nice if we had the other image of which you speak so that we could make a judgement, wouldn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted March 8, 2021 Share #1194 Posted March 8, 2021 6 hours ago, boojum said: It would be nice if we had the other image of which you speak so that we could make a judgement, wouldn't it? I think, I could see some IR issues. My M-E exhibits it from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted March 8, 2021 Share #1195 Posted March 8, 2021 M-E with CV CS 21/4. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4156288'>More sharing options...
Cobram Posted March 9, 2021 Share #1196 Posted March 9, 2021 23 hours ago, Ko.Fe. said: M-E with CV CS 21/4. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! CV CS 21/4 is a little gem. Very sharp and nice BW rendering. Ko.Fe. congratulation for composition --> awesome. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted March 9, 2021 Share #1197 Posted March 9, 2021 M9P, 90 f2.8 at f5.6 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4157343'>More sharing options...
billh Posted March 9, 2021 Share #1198 Posted March 9, 2021 M9P, 90 f2.8 at f5.6 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4157345'>More sharing options...
surfmanjoe Posted March 10, 2021 Share #1199 Posted March 10, 2021 M9P + Zeiss Planar 50mm F2, backlight, Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4157358'>More sharing options...
surfmanjoe Posted March 10, 2021 Share #1200 Posted March 10, 2021 M9P + Zeiss Planar 50mm F2, backlight, Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/277247-m9-m9-p-m-e-photos-post-them-here/?do=findComment&comment=4157359'>More sharing options...
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