davichan Posted June 26, 2007 Share #1 Posted June 26, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) i know this has been beat to death. I have been reading the forums for Over 6 months now, and still not sure of the latest fix. i am doing a commercial shoot tommrow, all daylight, outside, in color, and using the M8 with VC 12mm without IR filter.... could not get the IR filter atachment in time... the talent will be wearing BLACK (m8agenta) sneakers.... it is for a sneaker ad. HA (i am a sadist) i will be shooting several pictures to hand over to client, i can say close to over 100. i am super proficent in Photoshop, and use Lightroom now for all my digital file managment. can some one please just clue me in on the best cure for this mess i know i will have to deal with. thank you gang... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Hi davichan, Take a look here please help, VC12mm, M8, no IR and deadly black sneakers. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest licht Posted June 26, 2007 Share #2 Posted June 26, 2007 a. deliver black & white pictures to the client or b. rent a camera without those problems or c. use a lens with ir-filter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 26, 2007 Share #3 Posted June 26, 2007 i know this has been beat to death.I have been reading the forums for Over 6 months now, and still not sure of the latest fix. i am doing a commercial shoot tommrow, all daylight, outside, in color, and using the M8 with VC 12mm without IR filter.... could not get the IR filter atachment in time... the talent will be wearing BLACK (m8agenta) sneakers.... it is for a sneaker ad. HA (i am a sadist) i will be shooting several pictures to hand over to client, i can say close to over 100. i am super proficent in Photoshop, and use Lightroom now for all my digital file managment. can some one please just clue me in on the best cure for this mess i know i will have to deal with. thank you gang... You are brave indeed. Do you have to shoot it with the M8? If so, I'd recommend Jamie Robert's profiles. Otherwise, as much as I love the M8, I'd shoot it with something else since the client needs color. This is the kind of shoot where filters would be a real advantage. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artichoke Posted June 26, 2007 Share #4 Posted June 26, 2007 best results for this is to select the offending magenta color (using the Magic Wand or Select/Color Range option), feather to taste, make a new layer as copy, desaturate and then use Color Burn with a pleasing adjustment of opacity slider (about 20 to 30 % for most cases) and then flatten takes all of a few minutes good luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davichan Posted June 26, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted June 26, 2007 Hello Sean, can you please link me to Jamie Robert's profiles. will they work with CS3 or lightroom? much appricated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 26, 2007 Share #6 Posted June 26, 2007 No they are for C1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davichan Posted June 26, 2007 Author Share #7 Posted June 26, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) damn, I only have cs2 and cs3, you would think those profiles are foward compatible.. thank you jaap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 26, 2007 Share #8 Posted June 26, 2007 C1 LE is bundled with the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teehas53 Posted June 27, 2007 Share #9 Posted June 27, 2007 Wow... I have to agree with the suggestions to use another camera. I also love working with the M8, but would never risk a client's job (and consequently my own reputation) on anything I wasn't 100% confident in. In this case, I think you're flirting with disaster. T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 27, 2007 Share #10 Posted June 27, 2007 damn, I only have cs2 and cs3, you would think those profiles are foward compatible.. Davi, C1 = Capture One, not Photoshop CS1. Different animals. Jamie's profiles aren't designed to work with any version of Photoshop. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sps Posted June 27, 2007 Share #11 Posted June 27, 2007 Where are you shooting? I'm in DC for the next week and I'd lend you mine (the CV adapter plus the B&W 486 slim 77mm filter). Do you have a coded adapter to make use of this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laki Posted June 27, 2007 Share #12 Posted June 27, 2007 i know this has been beat to death.I have been reading the forums for Over 6 months now, and still not sure of the latest fix. i am doing a commercial shoot tommrow, all daylight, outside, in color, and using the M8 with VC 12mm without IR filter.... could not get the IR filter atachment in time... the talent will be wearing BLACK (m8agenta) sneakers.... it is for a sneaker ad. HA (i am a sadist) i will be shooting several pictures to hand over to client, i can say close to over 100. i am super proficent in Photoshop, and use Lightroom now for all my digital file managment. can some one please just clue me in on the best cure for this mess i know i will have to deal with. thank you gang... for some commercial shooting, really well prepared sorry, but couldnt resist...as others mentioned use some other gear, otherwise neither you or your client will be happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted June 27, 2007 Share #13 Posted June 27, 2007 Davi-- Another solution is to use "Replace color..." in CS2. (I'm sure it's there in CS3 as well, but don't have the program.) Duplicate the layer you want to correct to avoid over-writing the original (just in case). Choose Image >> Adjustments >> Replace color... Using the Selection eyedropper at the top of the window that opens, click in the magenta you want to replace; adjust the 'fuzziness' slider so that the selected area covers only the area you want to replace. Then in the bottom ("Replacement") half of the Replace Color window, either: 1) Adjust the Hue, Saturation and Lightness sliders; or 2) Click the "Result" color swatch and choose a color as usual; or 3) Do #2 and then fine-tune with #1 above. Then click "OK." Hope that helps. Even though it's cheating. Good luck! --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyTotaro Posted June 27, 2007 Share #14 Posted June 27, 2007 Hi: Do you know that these sneakers are made of synthetic material? It's my understanding that the magenta problem only happens for synthetic black like nylon or microfiber. If they're black canvas or leather you should be ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted June 27, 2007 Share #15 Posted June 27, 2007 Do you know that these sneakers are made of synthetic material? It's my understanding that the magenta problem only happens for synthetic black like nylon or microfiber. If they're black canvas or leather you should be ok. No, it happens with natural materials too - much of it depends upon the dyes used. I agree with the others here who are cautioning against using the M8 under these circumstances and wonder whether this is a wind-up? Do you really want to be photoshopping out the magenta in 100 files? It's cheap to rent a decent DSLR and 15mm lens - infinitely cheaper than the cost of your time in Photoshop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 27, 2007 Share #16 Posted June 27, 2007 I find it a bit surprising that a professional photographer would consider doing an important shoot with inadequate tools, nor have access to backup, like a 5D. The photoshop expertise must have come from somewhere.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fefe Posted June 27, 2007 Share #17 Posted June 27, 2007 In lightroom, desaturate magenta in the camera profile. The only real problem is when you have something in the scene that should have some magenta component... Then you can't do anything about it. I took picture of a play where one actor was wearing black synthetic fabric and laying on a magenta couch... I can get both magenta or both black but that's it. I assume that's what Jamie profile does in C1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 27, 2007 Share #18 Posted June 27, 2007 One thing to keep in mind, since we're on the topic is that IR can effect all kinds of color rendering with a variety of subject materials. The shift with many black textiles is often discussed but it's only one of a wide variety of shifts that can occur because of IR. Some (including myself at times) actually like to let the camera have its head and render as it sees fit. But there's no way I would do that when shooting color work for a client unless the client specifically wanted a very liberal and unusual kind of color interpretation. BTW, for those who like precision in language (I can't be the only one here), Cosina licensed the Voigtlander trade name (not vice-versa) and so the company is "CV", for Cosina Voigtlander, rather than VC. Minor point, I do realize. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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