Chaemono Posted October 1, 2017 Share #101 Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) A couple from today. Adobe Standard profile, AWB, opened in LR, and not touched except zero Tint. The last two are crops. The Noctilux captures the tones nicely stopped down. I have a few with the Summicron 75 at f/5.6 as well. Full resolution starting at number four here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-R3M9Qc/ Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 1, 2017 by Chaemono 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275413-m10-colors-oversaturated-merged-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3368327'>More sharing options...
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Chaemono Posted October 3, 2017 Share #102 Posted October 3, 2017 Shot some pumpkins today. The colors are delicious. Full resolution here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-gKf9RT/ Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275413-m10-colors-oversaturated-merged-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3369687'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted October 3, 2017 Share #103 Posted October 3, 2017 Full resolution here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-gKf9RT/ Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275413-m10-colors-oversaturated-merged-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3369689'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 3, 2017 Share #104 Posted October 3, 2017 All very nice, but it is not an image thread here, we have a nice one, right at the top of this subforum, which you found. Please don't double-post. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted November 12, 2017 Share #105 Posted November 12, 2017 For those who would like another starting point in LR and are not as skilled as Andy, Colin over at Huelight has added a few profiles for the M10. I must say, the Huelight Low V160 profile gets you some really punchy colors but that are not off like with the stock profile. In fact, if one reduces Tint and adjusts Temperature a bit they sometimes come close to the M9 colors (using the Adobe Standard profile). Here are some uncompressed files: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-Z83P9C/ M10, Adobe Standard, WB adjusted to try to match the M9 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M9, Adobe Standard profile M10, Huelight Low V160, WB adjusted to try to match the M9 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M9, Adobe Standard profile M10, Huelight Low V160, WB adjusted to try to match the M9 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275413-m10-colors-oversaturated-merged-thread/?do=findComment&comment=3394523'>More sharing options...
Paul J Posted November 12, 2017 Share #106 Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) Opened in LR and not touched. AWB and Adobe profile used. Full resolution here: https://www.smugmug....llery/n-vLdCpt/ M9 L1002634_lufv_Adobe.jpg M10 M1004312_lufv_Adobe.jpg M9 L1002623_lufv_Adobe.jpg M10 M1004302_lufv_Adobe.jpg Thanks for all these comparisons. Apart from the difference in colour and saturation It's really quite surprising to see how little difference there is between the M9 and the M10. Much less than I thought. Edited November 12, 2017 by Paul J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJN Posted November 12, 2017 Share #107 Posted November 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) First make a decent camera profile using a ColorcheckerPassport. The way you propose to do it will be a test of your postprocessing program and raw converter, not of the camera. I have made profiles with the Colorchecker passport but I find using the stand alone Adobe DNG profile Editor give far better skin tones, the redish tone in some portraits is completely fixed!, I have made profiles for the Q and also the SL with good results. I have been fixing the red cast using selective color In PS but now using the camera profiles made with the DNG Profiler give far better results, the monitors I use have been calibrated using BasICColor Display. DNG Profiler for mac: http://supportdownloads.adobe.com/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=5493&fileID=5489 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HELM Posted November 13, 2017 Share #108 Posted November 13, 2017 I came from 20+ years with Canon (Latest on 5DII and 5Ds) and do not find the colors over saturated (RAW) in Lightroom. I wonder if it depends on what camera system you came from ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 16, 2017 Share #109 Posted November 16, 2017 I have made profiles with the Colorchecker passport but I find using the stand alone Adobe DNG profile Editor give far better skin tones, the redish tone in some portraits is completely fixed!, I have made profiles for the Q and also the SL with good results. I have been fixing the red cast using selective color In PS but now using the camera profiles made with the DNG Profiler give far better results, the monitors I use have been calibrated using BasICColor Display. DNG Profiler for mac: http://supportdownloads.adobe.com/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=5493&fileID=5489 Yes- one can make an individual profile using the Adobe DNG Profile Editor, but it works best if you use a DNG of the Greta-Macbeth Colour Chart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nowhereman Posted November 25, 2017 Share #110 Posted November 25, 2017 Am I the only one who finds the colors from the M10 to be significantly over saturated with (especially) the M10 profile in Lightroom? Better with the Adobe profile but I still find myself backing off the Saturation by -15 to -25 to get anywhere near reality... Over saturated? No way! But you can certainly process to get paster colors if you wish, but not for the subject below. Looking into this Chiang Mai art and antique store, along the south moat of the old city, I was taken with the saturated colors and beauty of this Buddha. Not an antique, it was carved in wood in Northern Thailand about thirty years ago, in a Burmese style. In taking the picture, I was standing in the open front of the store, whose owners are a pleasant older couple. M10 | Summaron-M f/5.6 28mm | ISO 800 | f/5.6 | 1/60 sec Chiang Mai _________________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted December 6, 2017 Share #111 Posted December 6, 2017 I've struggled with both the Adobe and Leica colour profiles. I bought the Huelight profile that was recently released. I'm using the Standard+ profile. It's early days, but seems to be better. Skin tones and white balances are easier to deal with. And I get more pleasing and deep, but not annoyingly so, colours. Again, still early days.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted December 6, 2017 Share #112 Posted December 6, 2017 There is a simple slider in Lightroom to alter saturation to taste in seconds. All this talk about profiles just complicates the matter. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell Posted December 6, 2017 Share #113 Posted December 6, 2017 Willeica, I get the bit about the saturation slider. Perhaps I should have posted in a different thread. My problems with the Adobe and Leica M10 profiles have been much more than just saturation. The colours and white balance were also off and hard to correct. South East Asian skin tones would go violent orange for example. So far so good with the Huelight. Everyone please ignore my post #111 -- it's misleading in a thread about saturation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted December 6, 2017 Share #114 Posted December 6, 2017 Russell, you post is fine. The "global" saturation slider changes saturation for all colors equally. It is a sledge-hammer. Profiles (and the sliders used to modify them in Lightroom's calibration panel) adjust individual primary colors separately, for a better balance of saturation across red, green and blue (and secondarily, cyan, magenta and yellow). Control of saturation solely by the global slider may adjust reds to be a user's preferred saturation - but leave the greens and blues dull and lifeless (or still too saturated). It works well - if the profile and calibration adjustments to the profile are already balanced. We need both. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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