bill vann Posted June 25, 2007 Share #1 Posted June 25, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mods, a bit off guidelines but... would wait for your buy/sell but have some extenuating circumstances. I know a bloke loved photography over 45 years, took loving care of all his equipment. shot from 11x14 to 35mm. seems at 18 years of age his country asked him to help serve, which he did. coming home with a shattered back legs and shoulder. somewhat put back together, now at 54 a shoulder rebuild 7 knee jobs and 5 back surgeries his back has given it up for good and his neuro and orthopaedic surgeons (one a close friend and photo enthusiast) have set a carry weight limit of 5lbs on him, permanently. me. i now also have permanent spinal trauma induce tremors after having 10 inches of my spine rebuilt last round may 30 I'm selling a lovingly assemeled life of photography equipment with much disappointment and angst. however I will be happily getting a small lightweight kit so i can continue my passion at some level, heck i enjoyed my kodak brownie. a bunch will not be covered by insurance so will also need the money. M8, grip 1.25 HK, extra battery 12mmCV, 15mm CV 21mm asph 28mm cv ultron, 35mm cron 4th ver pre asph bokeh king, 50mm cron, 75mm lux, 90mm cron 135 tele elmar, tri elmar, second version, and wate on order. bollefen at aol . com for details prefer not to sell onesies twosies, hard to do physically but... i'll be around , love this forum and its members. i'll be shooting with something that comes in at about 3 lbs, including a zoom (maybe 2) reviewing options (sure won't have leica IQ or lens quality although looking at digilux 3. Finally thank you all for your thoughts notes and prayers, the neurosurgeons say i have no right and should not have had any expectations of even still being able to walk, in my mind you prayers and good thoughts have helped. warmly bill vann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 Hi bill vann, Take a look here update, throwing in the towel, no options. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
harmsr Posted June 25, 2007 Share #2 Posted June 25, 2007 Bill, I'm sorry to hear this news, and wish you the best. I truly hope that you can still enjoy photography with a more limited kit and image stabilization. Take a look at the Digilux 3, Olympus 510, or even the V-Lux 1. Once again, I truly wish you the best. Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry Posted June 25, 2007 Share #3 Posted June 25, 2007 Bill, Sorry to hear this news, your perseverance is an inspiration, though. Best of luck with the sale and the continuation of your passion. Larry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted June 25, 2007 Share #4 Posted June 25, 2007 Bill, lots of good wishes and eneergy to prove the docs "not entirely right" in terms of describing your limits. I would have thot the M8 with a CV lens would have fit the bill (pun intended). That's a pretty light package. What come to mind is a D2. I have been using one very happily for 3-plus years and find it light, easy to use with the preview showing on the viewing screen, and capable of excellent detail and Leica-like images. Altho it's only 5mp and the sensor is only 6.6x8.8mm, I have a print from it, cropped to an area less than 1x1mm, that is blown up to 13x15 inches. The color, detail, and sense of the picture is very good. From 3 feet away, the noise is not noticable. Highly recommended. The 28-to-90 zoom served me very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted June 25, 2007 Share #5 Posted June 25, 2007 Bill - Sad news for you, sorry perfection did not come your way. I have heard tales of pro fashion photographers shooting on mobile phones, and photojournalists working in Iraq with ordinary point and shoots. 'Ordinary' in capable hands becomes extraordinary, so 3lbs. it is, people here will be backing you for 3lbs. of heavyweight punch. Very best wishes. ...............Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviskennedy Posted June 25, 2007 Share #6 Posted June 25, 2007 Bill: Email sent on the 50 and 90 crons, battery and grip. Elvis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted June 25, 2007 Share #7 Posted June 25, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Bill, good luck with the sale, and above all, with your back. The M8 and a lens or two (28 Ultron, 50 Cron) would also come in under 3 lbs. but perhaps you need more flexibility than that. The Digilux-3 with the 14-50 might be a good kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted June 25, 2007 Share #8 Posted June 25, 2007 Bill really sorry to hear of this news and first and formost your health is number one and hope there will be improvements in it as time goes on and you build some strength back. Just a note the V-lux is a fun little camera that is very light and the images from it are extremely good. if i had the money i would just buy the whole lot off you since i may reorganize a little myself. Good luck with your sales, if you need help just let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRabbit Posted June 25, 2007 Share #9 Posted June 25, 2007 Hi Bill, I've only recently become familiar with the "Leica crowd" and had read some of your posts from the past (here and on DPReview)... and first and foremost, I wish you the best of luck with you health! I can only imagine what it's been like for you. My mom has a problem with carrying heavy camera gear (her neck, and her annoyance... nothing as serious as you) and it's prevented her from going with a dSLR... until recently. I bought an Olympus e410 and she was in love with it for it's size and light weight... we went and looked at the e510 (with IS) Saturday and it's only a smidge heavier. Even with the 14-54 f/2.8-3.5 Zuiko lens it comes in at much less than 5 lbs... it's actually only a hair over 2 lbs! I also bought a Leica 25mm f/1.4 Summilux for the e410 (it's made for the 4/3 system) and it's a little bulkier but still only about 2.5 lbs. I'd definitely give a look at the Oly system. So far I've been VERY happy with it. No, it's not a Leica cam, but it sure is small, and the quality is really great... AND you could get a Leica lens My prayers and thoughts are with you... Amy ps. a photos for you... No great work of art (well it is to me only because it's my daughter), but it was shot with the 410 and the Leica lens... and here's what that combo looks like: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted June 25, 2007 Share #10 Posted June 25, 2007 Bill, Pre-M8, my friend was using the DLux3. I tried it out and recommended it to many of my friends. Now, it is not an M8, but it is capable of taking some beautiful pictures. It is super light and easy to carry with you at all times, and the 16:9 format is wonderful. In conjunction with Alienskin Exposure, you can print some beautiful images with this camera if you shoot raw. Go for the DLux 3 and see if you can pick up a Yashica T4 or Contax T3, and load them with Black and White film. Or how about a Leica CL in good condition. You wouldn't give up any quality there. Send in the film for processing and get a negative scanner, and you can continue this wonderful hobby. Good luck and good health to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 26, 2007 Share #11 Posted June 26, 2007 Hi Bill, Sorry to hear this. I'll second the suggestion of the D-Lux 3. If lighter is good, very light might be better. The IS system does work and that might help with any body shaking. I think its a special little camera, capable of surprising things. Best, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted June 26, 2007 Share #12 Posted June 26, 2007 Sorry to hear the need to sell your M8 . I know this must be very hard. Just returning from the Leica Akademie trip in Germany. We borrowed a VLux1 and I can tell you I am very impressed with the images . Small sensor make the night shots noise a problem and the widest range is a 35mm equivalent. But the Image Stabilzation works great and the range goes from 35-420 ...its very light and might give you an option . It shoots Raw as well as fine JPGs so you have excellent options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 26, 2007 Share #13 Posted June 26, 2007 Sorry to hear this Bill. I guess we all look forward to the day that we cannot hold or carry our cameras any more with trepidation, but in your case it has come far too soon. I salute your courage and hope you will continue to baffle your doctors for many years to come. From experience I would suggest a Digilux2 as a lightweight camera that is satisfying to Leica M users, or even go back to film and scanning and get an old Leica CL or CLE. That would allow you to hang on to some of your beloved lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted June 27, 2007 Share #14 Posted June 27, 2007 Sorry to hear the need to sell your M8 . I know this must be very hard. Just returning from the Leica Akademie trip in Germany. We borrowed a VLux1 and I can tell you I am very impressed with the images . Small sensor make the night shots noise a problem and the widest range is a 35mm equivalent. But the Image Stabilzation works great and the range goes from 35-420 ...its very light and might give you an option . It shoots Raw as well as fine JPGs so you have excellent options. I was also on the German Leica Academie trip and my wife, who usually uses a Canon S50, "borrowed" a V Lux to shoot with the guys! Some of her work put me to shame since I had two M8's, and 9 lenses! She focussed on the images and perhaps I focussed on the equipment too much. In any event, I was super impressed with the V Lux given its extremely light weight, image quality and the 12X Zoom. There is a lot to be said about this method of shooting. Woody Spedden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill vann Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share #15 Posted June 27, 2007 tahnks for the kind notes and words. up a bit walk about 100 yds a day for therapy and can sit up for about 1/2 hour every few hours. will be a really long recovery this time but docs said doing better than expected (expected to need braces to walk and don't) sent a respnse with my kit list to all who requested it. if i missed you still taking massive quantities of painkillers sorry got a panny LX2 to play with for now. when i sell the m8 kit i'll have a bit of cash, right now all i'm paying is doctors, pharmacies, and testing centers. warmly bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamriman Posted June 27, 2007 Share #16 Posted June 27, 2007 Bill, I hope you find relief. I bought a 28mm elmarit from you at a great price. Bill sent me the lens before the check cleared! A kind trusting fellow indeed. One of a kind! Thanks Bill. I'll be intouch about your equipment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted June 27, 2007 Share #17 Posted June 27, 2007 Pain is shit. We are all rooting for you Bill. ...........Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tashley Posted June 27, 2007 Share #18 Posted June 27, 2007 Bill, I'm really sorry to hear this - you've a great deal of fortitude but it must be galling to have to give up some of the pleasures that balance the pains a little. I hope things go well for you from now on. Best Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 28, 2007 Share #19 Posted June 28, 2007 got a panny LX2 to play with for now. when i sell the m8 kit i'll have a bit of cash, right now all i'm paying is doctors, pharmacies, and testing centers. Hi Bill, The silver lining in all of this is that you can, if you'd like, stick with the LX2, forget all about the various technical debates and minutae (which so often has no real relevance to pictures) and just focus simply on photography itself. One can make very strong work with a little camera like that. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted June 28, 2007 Share #20 Posted June 28, 2007 Hi Bill, The silver lining in all of this is that you can, if you'd like, stick with the LX2, forget all about the various technical debates and minutae (which so often has no real relevance to pictures) and just focus simply on photography itself. One can make very strong work with a little camera like that. I think this is the most important point. The joy and challenges of photography have little to do with the equipment used. I also might suggest you check out a program called Autopano. (Autopano.com) You might look forward to a new creative outlet in using the LX2 for panoramics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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