elwyn Posted July 5, 2017 Share #1 Posted July 5, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Soon I'm going on my first proper holiday in quite a while - 6 weeks in Australia (family visit+touring). I have an SL (an M9M) + 28 lux, a 50 nocti + recently 24-90, and like all my kit - but taking everything for a "just in case' moment would obviously be too heavy and bulky. Sure logic says just take the 24-90 as it covers everything I need, and is weatherproof - but perhaps this combination is a little "in your face", and still heavy for 6 weeks exploring/walking in very hot and different types of scenarios - not sure? If that were true, I could take both M lenses or just one, and if so which one for the wide range of travel I'll be doing? Australia seems too colourful to take the M9M. Any constructive advice would be most welcome - Many Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mute-on Posted July 5, 2017 Share #2 Posted July 5, 2017 Where are you going exactly? Australia is a very big and diverse country. J in Oz Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted July 5, 2017 Thanks for your prompt response. Family in Perth, Margret River, Indian/Pacific Train Perth Adelaide, Adelaide, Ocean Drive Adeladie-Melbourne, Melbourne Port Aurthur/Cairns, Family Perth. Have been to Oz a number of times when on business, but just cities, Perth, Melbourne, Sydney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted July 5, 2017 Share #4 Posted July 5, 2017 On every holiday trip in the last 2 years I have taken the SL, 24-90, WATE, often the Nocti or SL 50, often the 90-280 and the Q or T as a backup. I have used the SL+24-90 95% of the time. The 90-280 only got used on a cycling holiday as it could go in a pannier ..... not on my back or in a bag. The others were used out of sympathy and a futile attempt to justify bringing them. Every time I vow not to take the stuff I KNOW I will never use ..... but still take a selection 'just in case' ..... although what 'just in case' means I cannot tell you. With holidays in particular you never really know what you will encounter so the camera/lens combo that is the most flexible is the sensible option. Be brave ..... just take the 24-90 and a very lightweight tripod for low light. Get a wide strap like the Peak Design Slide and carry the camera crossways and the weight/bulk will vanish. You will regret lugging around too much gear greater than missing what you have left behind. Don't forget the sun cream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted July 5, 2017 Share #5 Posted July 5, 2017 I would take the MM for sure, also M lenses and SL with T adapter. You should be able to fit in one carry on camera bag and maybe squeeze 24-90 in too. Take the lot, why leave anything behind? Maybe you need a 21 m lens too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted July 5, 2017 Share #6 Posted July 5, 2017 Every time I vow not to take the stuff I KNOW I will never use ..... but still take a selection 'just in case' ..... although what 'just in case' means I cannot tell you. Don't forget the sun cream Some terrific advice! (I will face a similar decision next week and will chuckle when I think about your sage advice). Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted July 5, 2017 Share #7 Posted July 5, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well since I live here I ought to give at least one suggestion: M9 and 28 lux for cities, SL and 24-90 for everything else (coast, Great Ocean Road, etc). Leave the Noctilux at home. Since you are driving the weight is less of an issue, but once you are on foot, the two options will make sense. The smaller and lighter M+28 for city walks. Put it on a strap around your neck/shoulder. The SL you can grab from the car and take the inevitable amazing landscape/seascape scenes you will encounter on your drives and tours. Get a very comfortable and protective backpack that will take both, if need be, for transit and hiking/walking. A peak design or similar strap for the SL is a must if you are going to carry it any distance outside the backpack. Forget the shoulder bag if you are walking a lot. It will get heavy and painful with anything more than the M. Take some very comfy and supportive walking shoes. I like the Colorado brand. Lightweight and waterproof as well. Sunscreen and a wide brim hat, not a baseball cap, are a must. Visit the Leica dealer in Perth, Camera Electronic. You may be able to get tax free and take advantage of an exchange rate benefit as well. Enjoy! Cheers J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budfox Posted July 5, 2017 Share #8 Posted July 5, 2017 Well since I live here I ought to give at least one suggestion: M9 and 28 lux for cities, SL and 24-90 for everything else (coast, Great Ocean Road, etc). Leave the Noctilux at home. Since you are driving the weight is less of an issue, but once you are on foot, the two options will make sense. The smaller and lighter M+28 for city walks. Put it on a strap around your neck/shoulder. The SL you can grab from the car and take the inevitable amazing landscape/seascape scenes you will encounter on your drives and tours. Get a very comfortable and protective backpack that will take both, if need be, for transit and hiking/walking. A peak design or similar strap for the SL is a must if you are going to carry it any distance outside the backpack. Forget the shoulder bag if you are walking a lot. It will get heavy and painful with anything more than the M. Take some very comfy and supportive walking shoes. I like the Colorado brand. Lightweight and waterproof as well. Sunscreen and a wide brim hat, not a baseball cap, are a must. Visit the Leica dealer in Perth, Camera Electronic. You may be able to get tax free and take advantage of an exchange rate benefit as well. Enjoy! Cheers J Tend to agree with this combo for the city v country pics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoreserve Posted July 5, 2017 Share #9 Posted July 5, 2017 Well since I live here I ought to give at least one suggestion: M9 and 28 lux for cities, SL and 24-90 for everything else (coast, Great Ocean Road, etc). Leave the Noctilux at home. Since you are driving the weight is less of an issue, but once you are on foot, the two options will make sense. The smaller and lighter M+28 for city walks. Put it on a strap around your neck/shoulder. The SL you can grab from the car and take the inevitable amazing landscape/seascape scenes you will encounter on your drives and tours. Get a very comfortable and protective backpack that will take both, if need be, for transit and hiking/walking. A peak design or similar strap for the SL is a must if you are going to carry it any distance outside the backpack. Forget the shoulder bag if you are walking a lot. It will get heavy and painful with anything more than the M. Take some very comfy and supportive walking shoes. I like the Colorado brand. Lightweight and waterproof as well. Sunscreen and a wide brim hat, not a baseball cap, are a must. Visit the Leica dealer in Perth, Camera Electronic. You may be able to get tax free and take advantage of an exchange rate benefit as well. Enjoy! Cheers J Good advice, though I would recommend choosing two SL Bodies attached with M-28 Lux respectively SL-24/90. A relatively compact and, very important, an ideal backup - solution... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted July 5, 2017 Many thanks for all your great advice and comments, they are genuinely much appreciated. After reading your suggestions, I think the best route, as I've got a good backpack, is to take the SL+M9M cameras (didn't think about taking my b/w camera), 24-90, 28mm, and tripod - leaving my Nocti at home. Normally, I'll be using the 28/M9M as the city combo and the SL/24-90 for almost everything else, but this way I could use the 28mm on the SL at times too. So, I've got my suncreams, a wide brimmed hat (no corks), and now just counting the months down and very much looking forward to going. Cheers Guys. E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted July 5, 2017 Share #11 Posted July 5, 2017 Be aware that they won't actually let you in without corks on the hat ....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arai Posted July 5, 2017 Share #12 Posted July 5, 2017 I just had Melbourne - Great Ocean Road vacation in summer time in February, I found SL+24-90 to be a great combo of all my time there, the images I got are stunning Therefore at night you need to get SL+50 nocti combo, bc I don't have nocti I use the Q back then. I'll leave 28 lux and M9M behind, you don't need fast aperture for wide lens mostly, it already covered by 24-90. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted July 5, 2017 Share #13 Posted July 5, 2017 I'd bring the lot, plus a TL to M adaptor. Get a decent sling strap for the SL and you'll carry it all day easily. Even with the 24-90 on the SL you'll not be noticed and you'll use that for 95% of your shooting. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arai Posted July 6, 2017 Share #14 Posted July 6, 2017 I'd bring the lot, plus a TL to M adaptor. Get a decent sling strap for the SL and you'll carry it all day easily. Even with the 24-90 on the SL you'll not be noticed and you'll use that for 95% of your shooting. Gordon Couldn't agree more, I skeptic at first because of 24-90 weight, but I ended up using it a lot, very versatile lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanetomlane Posted July 6, 2017 Share #15 Posted July 6, 2017 I went to the Leica Challenge a couple of weeks ago in Melbourne and we made it into a three week trip so we could include Tasmania and the great ocean road. I took an M and a couple of lenses. However for at least 90% of the time the SL and 24-90mm covered everything. Similarly, we did a three week trip through Canada last fall and again all I used was the SL and 24-90. I would also recommend taking the WATE as that (and the Noctilux) are really the only M lenses I use on the SL. Whatever you decide, have a wonderful trip. Cheers, Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 7, 2017 Share #16 Posted July 7, 2017 The Nocti is great on the SL, as is the 28 Lux. I'm not really a huge zoom fan - they're slow, large and somehow lack the discipline of primes. But they are convenient. I'd leave the Monochrom behind, and take the 24-90 zoom (it's useful and weathersealed) with a polarising filter, and the Nocti and 28 Lux (they're no use sitting at home), with a nice compact backpack (I use the 20L Peak Design). When out and about, just take one prime, or put a spare in your pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistairm Posted July 7, 2017 Share #17 Posted July 7, 2017 I'd take it all. The SL with the 24-90, an M and a couple of M lenses isn't too much to take on a trip (albeit you won't likely carry it all with you every day). As stated above, the M will be great in the city and the SL with the zoom will do everything... but you can still get awesome colour photos with your M lenses on it when you want to go light and still shoot in colour. Australia is wonderful, but when it rains it rains and you'll likely find some sand and dust and at those times you'll be delighted to have the SL with its native lens. You might even want to consider an 82mm macro/close up filter, as you'll likely see some flora that's worth photographing. If you want to go lighter, I'd leave the M at home but bring your SL, zoom and also the two fast lenses. Actually, that is probably the way I would go and selectively edit to B&W from the SL files. Have a great trip and if you have any issues ping us Aussies on here and we will be happy to help you out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted July 7, 2017 Share #18 Posted July 7, 2017 I understand it is very attempting to bring everything. I don't have SL yet. I have M9, MATE, 24mm, 35mn, 50mm, and 90mm. For a while I found MATE the most useful. I then tried to bring only one lens to see how it goes. I found if it is 24mm, it is not that had. Yes I do feel restricted, but this restriction actually turns to be an advantage. It hrlps.me to get many better shots than I would do it differently. With this limit to only one lens exercise, I found I am moving towards only 50mm sumicron. If it continue along this line, I might be about to sell the MATE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 8, 2017 Share #19 Posted July 8, 2017 SL plus Noctilux..............and leave the rest of the rubbish at home. I'm going to Japan in November for 7 days and only taking SL plus Noctilux.........you already know its your favorite lens so just take it and be happy Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share #20 Posted July 8, 2017 SL plus Noctilux..............and leave the rest of the rubbish at home. I'm going to Japan in November for 7 days and only taking SL plus Noctilux.........you already know its your favorite lens so just take it and be happy Neil ;-} E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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