JBonner Posted June 25, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted June 25, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, the offer applies to the UK. Â I took advantage of it six weeks ago and am very pleased I did. The D3 is a far more useful camera than the D2 anyway and to be offered one at half price was a pretty good deal I thought. The alternative was to wait for an unspecified, but growing, length of time for my D2 to be repaired. It was a pity that the offer doesn't include the Billingham bag deal, but even so, I have no complaints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 Hi JBonner, Take a look here Digilux 3 Upgrade Program for Digilux 2 owners. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dwmackay Posted June 25, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted June 25, 2007 This does not seem like a great deal. Consider the following: Â Street Price of new D3: $2,100 Less D2 sold on eBay: <$1,000> Net cost of the new D3: $1,100 Â So Leica saves you $150. ($1,100 - $950) Not that great a deal to me. The only upside is that you do not have to wait for the repair and you do not have to sell the D2 on eBay. It seems like they could offer something more attractive as the manufacturer. The deal they are offering you can essentially do on your own. Saving $150 off of the $2100 D3 is only 7%. Â Doug M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squanmis Posted June 26, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted June 26, 2007 I got the same offer and I was tempted. But I already sent my D2 to Leica USA in the box. I have a feeling that they are going to replace the sensors and then slip them back into the market. I've opted to have it repaired, because I'm having a new house built and can't afford the $1099 because I don't possess the box. Â John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 26, 2007 Share #24 Â Posted June 26, 2007 They'd have to prise my D2 out of my cold, dead hands. Â (Unless it was a cold, dead D2 when I would ask the nice people at Solms to breathe the very life back into it. After which, paragraph 1 would apply.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blau4666 Posted June 26, 2007 Author Share #25 Â Posted June 26, 2007 Spoke to Leica USA today about the upgrade. They wanted everything back from what was shipped with the camera. I told them I used the foam in the box for packaging, they said then just fold the empty box, and include the charger, any cables, manual, etc. Â They will ship the D3 out to me right way at the discounted upgrade price with good faith if I decide to take it, but if the items are not received in 3 weeks they will charge me the full price. I have a feeling the re-conditioned D2s will end up with some liquidators and end up back in the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 26, 2007 Share #26 Â Posted June 26, 2007 ...I have a feeling the re-conditioned D2s will end up with some liquidators and end up back in the market. If so, this sounds like an effective piece of recycling to me - well done Leica. This would also give the D2 and extended life, which would be good news. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Lammers Posted June 26, 2007 Share #27 Â Posted June 26, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think it is a kind offer for an out of warranty camera...but my LC1 is going nowhere. I think I got one of the late production ones and have had no trouble yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBonner Posted June 26, 2007 Share #28 Â Posted June 26, 2007 There never was any question of sending in the box or any of the other bits and pieces. They even returned the battery to me. As for getting a $1000.00 for a D2 on Ebay.....have you seen how the prices have collapsed since it became common knowledge that the D2 was fatally flawed? Anyway, to compare the D3 with the D2 is not to compare like with like. The D2 was fun but hardly a serious camera, the D3 is what it always should have been, a capable, flexible creative tool. Seems a deal to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonladd Posted June 26, 2007 Share #29 Â Posted June 26, 2007 I bought a New (not refurb) Panasonic DMC-L1 off of eBay for $1029 US while waiting for the D2 to come home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted June 26, 2007 Share #30 Â Posted June 26, 2007 I don't believe Leica could refurbish a D2 and have it shipped for re-selling at a wholesale price that would, with dealer margins, be attractive to consumers given the current low D3 / L1 market prices. Â Â I suspect Leica's insistance on returned D2's being complete, as it was factory shipped may have more to do with Germany's Tax Office compliance for the disposal of faulty manufactured goods being written off at the original factory-shipped price. Â This has 3 pluses for Leica 1. move more D3's at probably the same ex-factory price 2. avoid the ongoing D2 sensor manufacturing requirement for repairs, plus repair cost. 3. present a manufacturing tax offset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucklik Posted June 26, 2007 Share #31 Â Posted June 26, 2007 [quote name=for a COMPLETELY different kind of camera in exchange. [/quote] Â I never understood why Leica quit the Digilux line and came with the D3 The D2 is a very fine camera, an update (buffer, sensor (5-6mb pixels with less noise etc) would have been better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwmackay Posted June 26, 2007 Share #32  Posted June 26, 2007 As for getting a $1000.00 for a D2 on Ebay.....have you seen how the prices have collapsed since it became common knowledge that the D2 was fatally flawed?.  eBay Digilux 2 completed items in the past 2 weeks  6/21 - $1,200 6/20 - $1,500 (new) 6/18 - $1,001 6/12 - $1,034 6/11 - $999  Average selling price for used D2 on eBay: $1,059. Maybe the market is still OK?  Doug M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptcheung Posted June 26, 2007 Share #33 Â Posted June 26, 2007 Considering the math of (1) taking the upgrade offer for USD950 or (2) buying a new L1 for USD1200, what boils down to is whether a Leica Digilux 3 is worth more than a Panasonic L1. I have held a L1 but not a D3. Â The one built disappointment I have with my Digilux 2 is that the silver top plate and bottom plate are made of plastic rather than metal as disguised. I noticed this because my Digilux 2 has two moderate scratches on it and the white plastic underneath was revealed. While I have seen pictures of the metal alloy frame integrated with the top plate of the Panasonic L1, I wonder if the Digilux 3 top plate is plastic or metal. Â PTC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptcheung Posted June 26, 2007 Share #34 Â Posted June 26, 2007 Considering the math of (1) taking the upgrade offer for USD950 or (2) buying a new L1 for USD1200, what boils down to is whether a Leica Digilux 3 is worth more than a Panasonic L1. I have held a L1 but not a D3. Â The one built disappointment I have with my Digilux 2 is that the silver top plate and bottom plate are made of plastic rather than metal as disguised. I noticed this because my Digilux 2 has two moderate scratches on it and the white plastic underneath was revealed. While I have seen pictures of the metal alloy frame integrated with the top plate of the Panasonic L1, I wonder if the Digilux 3 top plate is plastic or metal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted June 26, 2007 Share #35 Â Posted June 26, 2007 Considering the math of (1) taking the upgrade offer for USD950 or (2) buying a new L1 for USD1200, what boils down to is whether a Leica Digilux 3 is worth more than a Panasonic L1. I have held a L1 but not a D3. Your comment suggests the price difference is only $250, but in fact it's $250 plus however much a D2 will bring on the secondhand market. Using a conservative price of $900, that makes the price of a D3 upgrade $1850 versus a new L1 for $1200, which puts things in a different perspective... Â The one built disappointment I have with my Digilux 2 is that the silver top plate and bottom plate are made of plastic rather than metal as disguised. I noticed this because my Digilux 2 has two moderate scratches on it and the white plastic underneath was revealed. While I have seen pictures of the metal alloy frame integrated with the top plate of the Panasonic L1, I wonder if the Digilux 3 top plate is plastic or metal. Â On my LC1, the parts you reference are indeed made of metal, not plastic ... I know, as I've taken my LC1 apart and these parts are not painted on the inside, which clearly reveals them to be metal, not plastic, and I assume the same is true for the D2. Likewise, I've taken a peek inside my L1 and can confirm its top and bottom plates are likewise made of metal, not plastic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajthornbury Posted June 26, 2007 Share #36 Â Posted June 26, 2007 My D2 has just gone dead, contacting Leica UK today they advised return of camera to them for sensor replacement.No mention of D3 upgrade. Just as well since having the likeyhood of not having a camera for 3 months I have just purchased a new Olympus E410. Its smaller and lighter than the D3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbo Posted June 26, 2007 Share #37 Â Posted June 26, 2007 I received my Upgrade offer today (June 26, 2007). Â I couldn't accept given the uniqueness of my Digilux II, the fact that they aren't making any more of them and the fact that I can pick up a Panasonic L1 for around $1,100.00. I don't think the Digilux III will have the same significance as the Digilux II and the red dot just isn't worth more than double the cost of an equivalent camera. If i revisit Leica digital cameras again, it'll be years from now when they their camera body technology is more in line with the technology of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted June 27, 2007 Share #38 Â Posted June 27, 2007 Â The one built disappointment I have with my Digilux 2 is that the silver top plate and bottom plate are made of plastic rather than metal as disguised. I noticed this because my Digilux 2 has two moderate scratches on it and the white plastic underneath was revealed. While I have seen pictures of the metal alloy frame integrated with the top plate of the Panasonic L1, I wonder if the Digilux 3 top plate is plastic or metal. Â Â Peter, I own both a D2 and L1. Â The D2 silver top and bottom is not plastic. This was discussed many time in 2005, just search back through the older forum entries. Â On the D2, it is actually a Magnesium Alloy, with a strong white painted undercoat, and finally a silver painted outter layer. When the silver is scratch , you see the white painted undercoat which people have mistaken as plastic. Â If you do a search for "Mark Norton" and D2 you will find 20+ photos of a disassembled D2 showing this. Â Â The L1, is very hard cold black painted metal. The D3 felt similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted June 28, 2007 Share #39 Â Posted June 28, 2007 If so, this sounds like an effective piece of recycling to me - well done Leica. This would also give the D2 and extended life, which would be good news. Â Pete. Â I think that's the tough bit about the new offer - I'm not sure that the recovered cameras are going to be 'renewed' (note subtle Charlton Heston reference) it's great to be offered a D3 for the price of a L1 but the thing that bugs me is the idea of my nice D2 probably going for scrap.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 28, 2007 Share #40 Â Posted June 28, 2007 I think that's the tough bit about the new offer - I'm not sure that the recovered cameras are going to be 'renewed' (note subtle Charlton Heston reference)it's great to be offered a D3 for the price of a L1 but the thing that bugs me is the idea of my nice D2 probably going for scrap.... Robert, Â I'm hoping that Bohgee's prognosis is correct and that the refurbished D2s will find their way back to the market. (It costs nothing to hope. ) Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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