Csacwp Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share #41 Posted February 15, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 120 vs 100 is a tough question. I have both and love both and you can't go wrong with either. The 120 is great due to its macro ability besides its usual incredible S look. However, the 100mm I believe will suit you better. Its fast focusing and to me a bit more useful in general purposes with its 80mm equivalent fov. The DOF of both can be tiny if you like, at close focus its like 1mm dof! I think a 45/100 combo is a great starting point. Like many of us, you'll eventually have the 120mm too and probably a lot of others. The 70mm is the bargain of the bunch and is a great way to get started as a one lens solution. Price considerations aside, the 45/100 combo can do almost anything and really would cover you for most situations. For my M and SL, I have always found 35mm to be the most universal and when traveling "light" with the S, the 45 is the lens I take. Last year on a trip to Italy, I did not want a bag full of glass. I took just the 45/100 combo and never felt I was missing anything. I was shooting vintage cars and scenery and used my feet to get things in between to the two focal lengths. Also, I use a Peak Design hand strap which uses a tripod mount plate and is very secure and easily removable. This is my prefered way of carrying the S. Walking the streets all day and its comfortable for a medium format camera. M's and SL I use over the shoulder, the S and a lens is just too big for that, to me. You're going to love the results of the system whichever lens you choose. Having gone down the obsessive route with lenses and picking up all of them except the 180mm and 30mm, if I had to do it again, I might just have stuck with the 45/100 combo. Thanks for the advice! Do you have a link to the hand strap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Photoskeptic Posted February 15, 2017 Share #42 Posted February 15, 2017 "I've never used a tripod designed for a larger camera like the 007. From what I've been reading I will need a ball head and possibly a leveling plate (depending on the design of the ball) in addition to the tripod itself. Could somebody please recommend me a tripod and ball head that would be tall enough for someone who is six feet tall? I'd be great if the tripod could collapse to be small enough to fit into a backpack or carry-on bag for flights and easy transport. I also don't want to spend too much on one, but I do appreciate the need for something stable with this camera." I use an RRS TVC-3x, RRS leveling base and an Arca-Swiss d4. The Arca-Swiss PO is a good alternative ballhead. I'm 6', btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 15, 2017 Share #43 Posted February 15, 2017 The RRS TVC 24L is a pound lighter than the 34L, retracts 1.5 in. shorter, is rated to support 40lb (vs 50lb).....and still accommodates a 6 footer, especially with a robust head and leveling platform attached (both include 4-section legs). I find it sturdy, yet still light and small enough for travel with a system comparable to the S007. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorenzoLandini Posted February 15, 2017 Share #44 Posted February 15, 2017 I use a Gitzo GT5562LTS with an Arca Swiss cube head. It's a particular set up, not for everybody I guess. The tripod is a Gitzo 5 series, which is the sturdiest type of tripod made by Gitzo to be used with the heaviest camera gear. Probably an overkill on the S. However, it's a 6-leg tripod with no central column, which means that is sufficiently compact to easily fit in a luggage (50cm). 6 legs usually mean that the tripod can be flimsy and not as sturdy as a 3 or 4 legs. However, because it's a 5-series it ends up being very sturdy and very compact. The cube head is superb for architecture photography, but it's heavy. Yes, the whole set up is heavy, no questions about that. And it's very expensive too, but it works great even for long-exposure when it's windy. Regardless of which tripod/head you choose, keep in mind that the weight rating of tripod makers is misleading in the sense that a camera set up that weights let's say 15lbs requires a tripod rated way more than 20lbs to be sturdy, especially if you do long exposure or you use telephoto. My second suggestion is to buy a good tripod/head or you will end up buying it twice. At the end, no matter how expensive a tripod can be it's still a fraction of what the S system cost and it will likely outlast the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted February 15, 2017 Share #45 Posted February 15, 2017 I have a Gitzo tall 3-series with a cube (7.5 lbs total) for absolute solidity, but then I don't tend to take it out on walks. (The fourth leg section is for uneven ground, not height.) I've ordered a Novoflex TrioBal. With just a clamp, it's 3.5 lbs. With an Arca P0, it's 4.3 lbs. I hope that proves stable and portable. We'll see. --Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
349A Posted February 15, 2017 Share #46 Posted February 15, 2017 Here is the Peak Design link for the hand strap: https://www.peakdesign.com/clutch I haven't tried others but this one seems perfect to me. Easy to tighten while in use. I also use it on my SL and 24-90 combo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share #47 Posted February 16, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks- just ordered one. It looks ideal to me as I typically keep my camera in-hand rather than slinging it over my shoulder. Often I'm shooting in locations where a camera slung over the shoulder would be cut off me and stolen in a flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
349A Posted February 16, 2017 Share #48 Posted February 16, 2017 Glad it appeals to you. Be careful out there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share #49 Posted February 16, 2017 I've decided to go with a BH-55 head with the screw release and either the TVC-24L or 34L... tough decision between those two. I'm confused about quick release plates- could someone please recommend me a simple plate that fits the S 007 and the RRS screwed quick release? Also, would it be worthwhile getting a leveling base? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted February 16, 2017 Share #50 Posted February 16, 2017 I think most people will recommend this one ;-) http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/Quick-Release/Camera-Plates-L-Plates/Plates-for-Leica/S2013andS22010 john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 16, 2017 Share #51 Posted February 16, 2017 I've decided to go with a BH-55 head with the screw release and either the TVC-24L or 34L... tough decision between those two. I'm confused about quick release plates- could someone please recommend me a simple plate that fits the S 007 and the RRS screwed quick release? Also, would it be worthwhile getting a leveling base? BS2-L plate. I've already provided thoughts, and links, for everything else. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliberate1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share #52 Posted February 17, 2017 Here is the Peak Design link for the hand strap: https://www.peakdesign.com/clutch I haven't tried others but this one seems perfect to me. Easy to tighten while in use. I also use it on my SL and 24-90 combo. My son has this rig and I tried on on my S but could not get it to work. That said, my S system is permanently housed in a Peak designs bag. It is brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
349A Posted February 17, 2017 Share #53 Posted February 17, 2017 Was it a size or fit issue with your S? Mine is very comfortable. I transfer it between by S and SL. With the M's, I prefer a Artisan and Artist adjustable shoulder strap. I too have the Peak Design bag, I've not tried it with my S. I found it a bit snug with the SL. I much prefer a backpack in general. While not nearly as convenient for lens swapping and such, its so much more comfortable. Especially while traveling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 17, 2017 Share #54 Posted February 17, 2017 BS2-L plate. I've already provided thoughts, and links, for everything else. Jeff BTW, I prefer the lever release for the head...quick and reliable. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share #55 Posted February 17, 2017 Did some more thinking and ended up getting the RRS L bracket/plate for the S, the TVC 34L, and an Arca Swiss D4 with the classic knob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVB Posted February 17, 2017 Share #56 Posted February 17, 2017 I've decided to go with a BH-55 head with the screw release and either the TVC-24L or 34L... tough decision between those two. I'm confused about quick release plates- could someone please recommend me a simple plate that fits the S 007 and the RRS screwed quick release? Also, would it be worthwhile getting a leveling base? I have both those Tripods, the 24L is best for a the S, very strong and lighter than the 34, check out the Arca Cube if you can, its excellent!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted February 17, 2017 Share #57 Posted February 17, 2017 I cannot say enough good things about the Arca Swiss D4 geared head, It's just brilliant. I put mine on simple Surui legs and it's fabulous. I got an S007 l-plate off eBay which fits perfectly. After the D4G I would never go back to a simple ball head for landscapes. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manolo Laguillo Posted February 17, 2017 Share #58 Posted February 17, 2017 I cannot say enough good things about the Arca Swiss D4 geared head, It's just brilliant. I put mine on simple Surui legs and it's fabulous. I got an S007 l-plate off eBay which fits perfectly. After the D4G I would never go back to a simple ball head for landscapes. Gordon I agree 100%. No other head can do what this one does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csacwp Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share #59 Posted February 21, 2017 I wanted to thank you all again- you've got a really great forum here. I look forward to contributing more and sharing some of my photos. I ended up making out pretty well and have my kit together just in time to head off to South Africa in a few weeks. I got: New 45mm Elmarit- $3995 New 100mm Summicron- $5500 Used (mint) 120mm APO Summarit CS- $3540 New s007 body- $11,000 Used (mint) F stop Lotus with medium slope ICU- $220 RRS TVC-34L Arca-Swiss D4 geared Now I've got to get some ND and polarizer filers and I'll be good to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieri Posted February 21, 2017 Share #60 Posted February 21, 2017 I wanted to thank you all again- you've got a really great forum here. I look forward to contributing more and sharing some of my photos. I ended up making out pretty well and have my kit together just in time to head off to South Africa in a few weeks. I got: New 45mm Elmarit- $3995 New 100mm Summicron- $5500 Used (mint) 120mm APO Summarit CS- $3540 New s007 body- $11,000 Used (mint) F stop Lotus with medium slope ICU- $220 RRS TVC-34L Arca-Swiss D4 geared Now I've got to get some ND and polarizer filers and I'll be good to go. Great kit you got, congrats! About filters, might I suggest to go for square filters rather than round, they are much more flexible and practical in use; just get an adapter ring, and yo can use your system on all lenses. I wrote an article on filters for landscape here, which might be of interest to you: https://vieribottazzini.com/2016/07/best-filters-landscape-photography-review.html Have a great trip to SA and post some images when you are back! Best, Vieri Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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