geotrupede Posted January 28, 2017 Share #1 Posted January 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) HI, quick question to all the ones with a new sensor for the MM. Is the new sensor coming with a special firmware like for the M9? Or is it simply the 1.008? Could you please share your experience. Thank you G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Hi geotrupede, Take a look here Sensor replaced, which firmware?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted January 28, 2017 Share #2 Posted January 28, 2017 Leica will install the correct firmware when replacing the sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80_20 Posted January 28, 2017 Share #3 Posted January 28, 2017 My MM came back from Wetzlar last week (btw after 16 days only) with FW 1.016. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geotrupede Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Leica will install the correct firmware when replacing the sensor. Not willing to start an argument jaapv , but what is the point of your answer? I just would like to check which is the firmware for new sensors as I have just received mine and I have a bit of a suspicion that nothing was done. But here we go, the next post seems to confirm my worries. Thank you to 80_20 I will ask Leica an explanation in regards. G. Edited January 28, 2017 by geotrupede 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted January 28, 2017 Share #5 Posted January 28, 2017 Not willing to start an argument jaapv , but what is the point of your answer? I just would like to check which is the firmware for new sensors as I have just received mine and I have a bit of a suspicion that nothing was done. But here we go, the next post seems to confirm my worries. Thank you to 80_20 I will ask Leica an explanation in regards. G. I think this post seems to be calling for an explanation. You were asking whether the camera with a new sensor was returned with software version 1.008. One user reports having received his camera with software version 1.016 which is clearly another number than 1.008. Yet you seem not to accept Jaap's answer which says that Leica returns cameras with replaced sensors with software versions to match. What, exactly, is your worry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geotrupede Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted January 28, 2017 Without wasting time with a flash and a diffuser and checking for spot positions and compare before/after the trip, I simply wanter a quick way to know whether the sensor was replaced or not. Unfortunately unlike the M9, for the MM the FW can be the same with the new sensor (so it seems). Will check with camera maker as the pictures have spots (not as ugly as they were before the trip at a first glimpse... but to be honest I do not dare to check, it is Saturday and I was/am in a good mood so prefer to figure this out with the supplier next week). G. PS Did you have your one fixed too? It seems like all of them have the issue, the fact is that there are many users which prefer wide apertures and bokeh so they will never see the problem... I am one of the f8 onwards so I am doomed to see the issue as soon as it happens... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80_20 Posted January 28, 2017 Share #7 Posted January 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 0€ "invoice" from Leica listet: - sensor replaced and adjusted; - rangefinder adjusted Klaus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geotrupede Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted January 28, 2017 The 0€ "invoice" from Leica listet: - sensor replaced and adjusted; - rangefinder adjusted Klaus Unfortunately I did not get the invoice, the shop kept it, so I am left with the initial repair form. But thanks for the suggestion. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted January 29, 2017 Share #9 Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Without wasting time with a flash and a diffuser and checking for spot positions and compare before/after the trip, I simply wanter a quick way to know whether the sensor was replaced or not. Unfortunately unlike the M9, for the MM the FW can be the same with the new sensor (so it seems). Nah. The first wave of replacements came back with 1.010, which was different from the last FW for the MM (maybe 1.008, it hadn't changed much in the past couple of years and is still up on the website for those who have MMs that didn't suffer corrosion), mine came back in July with FW 1.010, and others who received their replacements later than that had 1.012. 1.016 was the first MM FW update that has been posted on Leica's Websitein some time; the other versions were installed at Leica with the new sensor. Edited January 29, 2017 by Chuck Albertson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geotrupede Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Ok, so only for the records and future questions, in case somebody had my same doubts. the new sensor is the only one that is currently fitted, when there is an issue in my case the camera had the sensor replaced / the dots have gone, simple dust and not corrosion as before the FW is usually updated as part of the works but (and this is interesting) in my case they forgot FW and kept 1.008. Thus the firmware is not sufficient to check whether the sensor was replaced as the new sensor works also with the FW 1.008 and the 1.016 is the same for all. Last piece of advice (as given to me) is to remember to ask for the invoice where all works are described. All resolved for me and thanks to Leica for help. G. PS and thanks to you for listening. Edited January 30, 2017 by geotrupede Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 4, 2017 Share #11 Posted April 4, 2017 Anyone notice if the EXIF data shows the shutter count gets reset to zero after new sensor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geotrupede Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share #12 Posted April 4, 2017 no reset here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted May 6, 2017 Share #13 Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Not willing to start an argument jaapv , but what is the point of your answer? I just would like to check which is the firmware for new sensors as I have just received mine and I have a bit of a suspicion that nothing was done. But here we go, the next post seems to confirm my worries. Thank you to 80_20 I will ask Leica an explanation in regards. G. My Monochrom just returned yesterday with the 1.016. Seems to start up a little quicker and the images come up on the display a tad faster after the shutter is actuated. Edited May 6, 2017 by james.liam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 6, 2017 Share #14 Posted May 6, 2017 M Monochrom Firmware Version 1.016 is current, and only adds support for the Summaron-M 28 mm f/5.6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted May 6, 2017 Share #15 Posted May 6, 2017 M Monochrom Firmware Version 1.016 is current, and only adds support for the Summaron-M 28 mm f/5.6. I think, but am not certain, that my last FW before the swap was a 1.002. I do detect a faster start-up and operational speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdphoto Posted February 2, 2019 Share #16 Posted February 2, 2019 I read somewhere that Leica provided a 1 yr. warranty with the replaced Monochrom (53) sensor. Does that still apply if a camera was serviced in 2017 by Leica? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleetenkiecker Posted February 2, 2019 Share #17 Posted February 2, 2019 Hi, to all, My MM1 came back ( last Autumn ) from Wetzlar with the new Sensor, and has Firmware 1.022 which was installed during the replacement in the Factory. Greetings from Munich. Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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