tap360 Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #21 Posted November 30, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks again to all. To clarify I am sure I want the M240 and was all set to buy a super condition used for £3k. I sold my M9-P for a similar price, so in effect a free upgrade and was v. happy. However, I now have the chance to buy a brand new M240 for £4.1k, prices have now risen to £5.2k, so it is a one off chance to get new at this 'bargain' price. I am lucky to be able to afford the extra £1.1k, so am tempted as I would have an unblemished camera from new. However, it's still £1.1k more than the used one which, although now 3.5 years old, appears to have had minimal use. In practice there is no photography gain from new, so head says buy used, heart still says go for new. Potential resale value in a couple of years therefore is a way of seeing if there may be a 'logical' reason to justify paying the extra for new. However, even if it's a bargain I suspect the gap in price now will be less than the premium I will still pay when I come to upgrade in a few years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kwesi Posted December 1, 2016 Share #22 Posted December 1, 2016 Buy new. 1, you can afford it and 2, pride of ownership is important to you. It's really just that simple. Forget all the math jumbo jumbo -. It's just a recipe for buyers remorse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted December 1, 2016 Share #23 Posted December 1, 2016 Or purchase a used MP (film camera) for c£2k, the difference will go a long way towards film and D&P costs. No worry of obsolescence and you can sell for the same or similar money should you wish years down the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted December 1, 2016 Share #24 Posted December 1, 2016 Thanks again to all. To clarify I am sure I want the M240 and was all set to buy a super condition used for £3k. I sold my M9-P for a similar price, so in effect a free upgrade and was v. happy. However, I now have the chance to buy a brand new M240 for £4.1k, prices have now risen to £5.2k, so it is a one off chance to get new at this 'bargain' price. I am lucky to be able to afford the extra £1.1k, so am tempted as I would have an unblemished camera from new. However, it's still £1.1k more than the used one which, although now 3.5 years old, appears to have had minimal use. In practice there is no photography gain from new, so head says buy used, heart still says go for new. Potential resale value in a couple of years therefore is a way of seeing if there may be a 'logical' reason to justify paying the extra for new. However, even if it's a bargain I suspect the gap in price now will be less than the premium I will still pay when I come to upgrade in a few years time. I think you should buy the new camera. If you go used and then have issues you'll just be kicking yourself. Accept the price difference for the longer warranty and feel good factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 1, 2016 Share #25 Posted December 1, 2016 Buy the used, and spend the £1100 on a lens. Sure, you can afford the higher price, but the new camera effectively comes free, and since you've saved £1100, the lens comes effectively as a free gift. What is there to argue about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 1, 2016 Share #26 Posted December 1, 2016 I would probably buy the used one too. I bought my M-P new from Leica Mayfair as I intended to keep it for a long time and then pass it onto my son. If I was the sort of person that upgraded every three or four years, I would certainly buy used. Of course if it develops a fault you will regret buying a used one because for some weird reason we all seem to be disposed towards thinking that 'new is reliable and fault free' and used 'is a risk'. Its nonsense of course.. any camera can develop a fault and most faults happen in the first few weeks or months, especially electronic faults, so used one is arguably less risky. If and when a new M comes along that you want to buy, you will need to sell either the new one or the used of these 240's for much the same the same price. Used is used, condition and a good service history are much more important than age. So buying new today will not give you any financial gain on the used market in a year or two. With the experience I now have, I would buy used without a doubt... there is no real benefit (unless you want to wait for a new M launch sometime in the future... but if thats in your mind too, that's yet another indication that the used one is the better bet). If you love the new M, whenever it comes out, you will be able to sell either of them pretty easily (for about the same money remember) and then buy the new M, sealed and enjoy a truly new camera from day one. Something that is already been on the market for three or four years, with a possible replacement within the next year? You buy it used, today and enjoy it... they are fantastic cameras... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tap360 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share #27 Posted December 1, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks again, as expected everyone has a different view! Decided to stick with the used - a couple of very minor marks I can live with and with 6 months warranty I have protection initially anyway. The first time I mark a new one, I will just be more upset and want to enjoy taking photos not fretting too much about it. I was tempted more by the sense of 'a bargain', but am sure as soon as the new one appears I will be tempted and glad of a few extra pounds in the pocket. Might get an extra used lens..always safer investments and also allows for even more shooting fun! I will always wonder about new though of course!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 1, 2016 Share #28 Posted December 1, 2016 Good choice. And if you are wondering about a new M when its released and it appeals to you, you can sell this one without losing much money and buy THAT new at launch. Best of both worlds and a much more pragmatic way forward! Congratulations and enjoy your camera! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tap360 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share #29 Posted December 1, 2016 And here she is, ready to go with the blue lizard leather I wanted to add. Time to go shooting! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/266950-buy-new-or-used-m240/?do=findComment&comment=3158903'>More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted December 1, 2016 Share #30 Posted December 1, 2016 Good choice! And for that matter it's probably run-in too, so any early life failures have been dealt with, hopefully. Update the firmware (to 2.0.30) if not done already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tap360 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share #31 Posted December 1, 2016 I get the feeling it's barely been used in 3.5 years, the on/off is still pretty tight and info text still unmarked! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsleica Posted December 1, 2016 Share #32 Posted December 1, 2016 Way to go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted December 1, 2016 Share #33 Posted December 1, 2016 Well done. You will hopefully get loads of enjoyment from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 1, 2016 Share #34 Posted December 1, 2016 And here she is, ready to go with the blue lizard leather I wanted to add. Time to go shooting! IMG_2940.JPGIMG_2941.JPG Beautiful! Why were you even asking the question! That looks stunning. Congratulations and enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 1, 2016 Share #35 Posted December 1, 2016 What are going to spend that £1100 windfall on ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tap360 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share #36 Posted December 1, 2016 Thanks. Possibly a 90mm or an R lens as I have an m-r adapter I picked up second hand (with the 60mm Elmar macro lens) Any recommendations ? I hear the 90mm f4 is really good but may be too expensive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tap360 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share #37 Posted December 1, 2016 The concern BTW was an awkward on off switch that readiky skips past S to C. Anyone any thoughts? May Just be a sign of little use but was worried it might be a sign of trouble ahead. Otherwise was no concern, just tempted by the last chance to get a new M for £4K!! Prices are now way higher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellisson Posted December 1, 2016 Share #38 Posted December 1, 2016 Very nice looking M with that blue covering! Congrats. Would look nice with the bright red ASPH 50 summicron! . Just kidding, of course! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted December 1, 2016 Share #39 Posted December 1, 2016 With M240 or 262 (or Leica Q) easy to slip switch round more than one requires. just a feature that's there but you don't need to worry – just retard rotation with switch-on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted December 1, 2016 Share #40 Posted December 1, 2016 Is the warranty different in the UK than the US? Because I bought one "demo" M240 and one "certified pre-owned" and they each came with 1-year warranties through Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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