Jeff S Posted November 22, 2016 Share #21 Posted November 22, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Unfortunately, using Adobe Application Manager prompts you to download the Creative Cloud before you can use the Adobe Application Manager to upgrade of LR. No, it's just confusing wording. You actually get the new perpetual version, not CC, if you click on recent updates. I've done it several times after 6.0. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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likealot Posted November 22, 2016 Share #22 Posted November 22, 2016 I've managed to get Lr 5.6 through a friend. i looked at Capture One but by the sounds of it, it's not worth me spending the extra money on something which aint going to bring me much more benefits. And from what I hear Lr 5 seems to be good enough. Well at least good enough for someone like me who has never had any experience with any photo procession software. Now, the next step for me is to get a good book to teach me to use Lr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted November 22, 2016 Share #23 Posted November 22, 2016 I'm upgrading my Lightroom 5.7 to the offer of a free download of Lightroom. My new M-P was built in January 2015...so I should get the "free" download...I don't want the CC version. I've put my TAN code in and got a redemption code, which I've put into the Adobe site. Adobe is installing CC as we speak. Does anyone know the shortcuts to get the stand-alone addition? And which edition will I get Version 6? Any help appreciated, as 'm doing it now. cheers... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 23, 2016 Share #24 Posted November 23, 2016 . Now, the next step for me is to get a good book to teach me to use Lr Get a Scott Kelby book on LR. Great for first time users; just ignore the occasional poor jokes. Martin Evening books are also good. If you prefer video learning, watch the free Adobe tutorials from Julieanne Kost. The Luminous Landscape (LuLa) site ($12 per year subscription) offers various video tutorials, including a 12 hour series on the entire Camera to Print workflow. Along those lines, in book form, I like the 2 books by Jeff Schewe, The Digital Negative and The Digital Print. Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted November 23, 2016 Share #25 Posted November 23, 2016 All done. It installed easily...just kept refusing Cloud during the whole 21/2 hour process installing this bloatware. Now have a Perpetual 6.7 edition of Lightroom...no CC. It all went smoothly. Didn't get the Haze Filter...only with the CC version. ( I might get the CC version of Photoshop and LR in the future.) It's hardly different to Version 5.7, but it does run a lot faster...which is important. And I believe the noise reduction is superior...someone said.. all best.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likealot Posted November 23, 2016 Share #26 Posted November 23, 2016 Get a Scott Kelby book on LR. Great for first time users; just ignore the occasional poor jokes. Martin Evening books are also good. If you prefer video learning, watch the free Adobe tutorials from Julieanne Kost. The Luminous Landscape (LuLa) site ($12 per year subscription) offers various video tutorials, including a 12 hour series on the entire Camera to Print workflow. Along those lines, in book form, I like the 2 books by Jeff Schewe, The Digital Negative and The Digital Print. Jeff Thank you Jeff. I did a bit of research prior to reading your post and it looks like what you said seems to be the consensus all over the net. I will give a try to the first two books to start with. All done. It installed easily...just kept refusing Cloud during the whole 21/2 hour process installing this bloatware. Now have a Perpetual 6.7 edition of Lightroom...no CC. It all went smoothly. Didn't get the Haze Filter...only with the CC version. ( I might get the CC version of Photoshop and LR in the future.) It's hardly different to Version 5.7, but it does run a lot faster...which is important. And I believe the noise reduction is superior...someone said.. all best.. It looks like I may need to upgrade quite soon to 6.7 then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted November 23, 2016 Share #27 Posted November 23, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) For those who find Scott Kelby's style a bit distracting (?) populist (?) then I can recommend Martin Evening's books on PS. This may be a transatlantic difference, and I don't see it as a reflection on the value of the instruction given by both. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted November 23, 2016 Share #28 Posted November 23, 2016 Each already recommended, with OP intending to buy both. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjgoretsky Posted November 27, 2016 Share #29 Posted November 27, 2016 Try CaptureOne ! I have a voucher code for CaptureOne which gives you a discount. Try: AMBWINSTON I wouldn't even bother with Lightroom. W Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Millers Posted March 22, 2018 Share #30 Posted March 22, 2018 With no intension to provoke, do we need Adobe, I don't and I would suspect that there are very few who even use 25% of what they have too offer. All these components and more are available elsewhere as I am finding out as I am now looking at alternatives right now. There is the argument that if you can afford a Leica camera then the cost of Adobe is insignificant to the cost of your hardware, looking after the pennies is how I can afford Leica in the first place. Each man too his own though so go with what you are happy with and if your not happy look elsewhere like me. Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted March 22, 2018 Share #31 Posted March 22, 2018 With no intension to provoke, do we need Adobe... Ahhh, a resurrection of an old thread. To answer your question: it depends. I don't need Adobe, but I want a good DAM. For me that used to be Apple's Aperture. Today it is Lightroom. Show me something better, or maybe even something at least as good in asset management and I might change. Files in folders are not enough. I want to search and organize (at least virtually) by any possible bit of metadata. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uffehagen Posted March 23, 2018 Share #32 Posted March 23, 2018 Ahhh, a resurrection of an old thread. To answer your question: it depends. I don't need Adobe, but I want a good DAM. For me that used to be Apple's Aperture. Today it is Lightroom. Show me something better, or maybe even something at least as good in asset management and I might change. Files in folders are not enough. I want to search and organize (at least virtually) by any possible bit of metadata. You might give Capture One a try. Version 11 has a very good asset management system, and a powerful search tool. You can use Capture One in catalog mode, which is the likes og Lightroom. I have been using Lightroom since early beta, but made the switch 2 years ago. Due to problems with tethered shooting in Lightroom/Nikon/OSX. I ran Lightroom and Capture One side by side for a year, just to be sure, and for now only Capture One. It fits my kind of work much better, and is more flexible 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Guy Posted March 23, 2018 Share #33 Posted March 23, 2018 You might give Capture One a try. Version 11 has a very good asset management system, and a powerful search tool. You can use Capture One in catalog mode, which is the likes og Lightroom. I have been using Lightroom since early beta, but made the switch 2 years ago. Due to problems with tethered shooting in Lightroom/Nikon/OSX. I ran Lightroom and Capture One side by side for a year, just to be sure, and for now only Capture One. It fits my kind of work much better, and is more flexible I like how you described making the switch. I also have used LR since beta and generally am happy with it combined with PS. I’m curious what you see as the advantages and disadvantages of Capture One versus LR and PS? I’ve never felt a need to look beyond Adobe. Perhaps I should. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 24, 2018 Share #34 Posted March 24, 2018 With no intension to provoke, do we need Adobe, I don't and I would suspect that there are very few who even use 25% of what they have too offer. All these components and more are available elsewhere as I am finding out as I am now looking at alternatives right now. There is the argument that if you can afford a Leica camera then the cost of Adobe is insignificant to the cost of your hardware, looking after the pennies is how I can afford Leica in the first place. Each man too his own though so go with what you are happy with and if your not happy look elsewhere like me. Paul. For editing there are indeed Lightroom replacements like C1, Luminar, ON1, etc. However, I find myself returning to Photoshop for things like LAB colour editing, layers and layer blending, content aware tools, etc.. I don't think any other company offers something similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted March 25, 2018 Share #35 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) You might give Capture One a try. I did. It is much changed from the last time I looked at it. I converted a Lightroom catalog and started playing after watching about an hour or two of tutorial videos. And gave up for one reason. A large number of jpeg images were marked as un-editable. Don't know why. But if I can't edit my images regardless of source (many were scanned prints) then I can't use the tool. Looks like I'll be staying with Lightroom. Edited March 25, 2018 by marchyman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marac Posted March 25, 2018 Share #36 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) I use LR 5.7 came free with my M and never found any reason to upgrade. I did, however, instal Afinity (mac/PC) on my mac and it works very well alongside LR for my needs. I still have an old 2014 version of PS that works perfectly well for what I do. I recommend Affinity Pro, it's reasonably priced and has de-haze included which is very good for my landscapes. I also use the excellent & free Google nik effects package. For me, this is the perfect combination of tools for my Leica. Edited March 25, 2018 by Marac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter L Posted March 25, 2018 Share #37 Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) I use Affinity Pro coupled with Lyn as a DAM, works well at a reasonable price. Apple's Photos works quite well as a first pass and is free on a mac Edited March 25, 2018 by Peter L Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Guy Posted March 25, 2018 Share #38 Posted March 25, 2018 I’ve been a LR and PS user for more than a decade and from LR beta. It serves my needs very well and I’ve had no reason to seriously look at alternatives. I have the subscription CC version at $9.95/ month and mostly consider it a good value. I only use the Classic tools and not cloud based, although I see where that has value for some people. I may someday adopt those capabilities too. I figured having the latest post processing tools is worth two lattes a month. I keep all my images in original formats in LR on a hard drive with multiple back up drives using the Apple Time Machine. It works pretty seamlessly. My assumption is having the originals allows me to move to another system in the future should that be required. I've spent many hours learning to use the tools, especially Photoshop, and don't want to invest in other tools in that way unless theres a big compelling reason. The tools have come such a long way since I moved to digital in 2003. It makes all of what Ansel Adams did in the darkroom even more impressive. It’s a lot easier for photographers now by a large margin. Quote from the movie Bridges of Madison County - “We are the choices we’ve made.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 25, 2018 Share #39 Posted March 25, 2018 There are already many related threads in the Digital Post Processing section of the forum concerning Adobe, alternatives, etc. Here’s one recent one ... https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/282409-another-lightroomadobe-discussion/page-1 Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted March 25, 2018 Share #40 Posted March 25, 2018 I I also use the excellent & free Google nik effects package. For me, this is the perfect combination of tools for my Leica. FYI: Google sold the NIK plugins to DxO --> https://nikcollection.dxo.com They are still free, for now. I don't know if that will be the case when they release the new versions some time this year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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