Nshah Posted October 27, 2016 Share #1 Posted October 27, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, Can somebody please guide me on this. Will the Crumpler 4 million dollar home bag hold a Leica m240 with 35mm Summicron (with hood) and EVF.. Also couple of spare batteries,Lens cap,and a spare lens? Thank you in advance, N.shah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sblutter Posted October 27, 2016 Share #2 Posted October 27, 2016 Here's what I use for the exact same items - less conspicuously 'camera bag': http://www.gr8gear.com/swiss-gas-mask-bag-olive-drab-salt-pepper.html?gclid=CNvD3L-r-88CFQeraQodZxgLGg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faxao Posted October 27, 2016 Share #3 Posted October 27, 2016 You can not be wrong with this one: http://www.onabags.eu/store/messenger-bags/the-bowery-107.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted October 27, 2016 Share #4 Posted October 27, 2016 Based on the dimensions of the bag and the dimensions of the M240 with 35 'cron attached, the answer would be yes. You may have to take off the lens hood. A couple of spare batteries should also fit. All bets are off regarding the second lens, though. I would recommend that you consider the Domke F803: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/16038-REG/Domke_701_83S_F_803_Camera_Satchel_Shoulder.html There are several color options and the J803 is essentially the same bag but made with ballistic nylon. The F803 or the J803 will easily fit the gear you want to carry and they are a reasonable size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted October 27, 2016 Share #5 Posted October 27, 2016 If you don't like the noise of Velcron (Crumpler) and don't like the noise and risks (for your lcd-screen for instance) of iron fasteners (Domke among others) and don't like a bag to be too heavy (ONA, although the strap is almost heavier than the bag itself) and don't like bags to be too tight (Lowe often), then I advise you to seriously consider spending a bit more money on a Billingham. I always thought when I had these former bags that the ideal bag does not exist. Since I work with Billingham I doubt that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted October 27, 2016 Share #6 Posted October 27, 2016 Billingham Combi bag for Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle123 Posted October 27, 2016 Share #7 Posted October 27, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Had two different Ona bags, trying to find something more fashionable. Sold both. Too heavy, buckles were noisy, and just didn't seem to fit well. I always return to my Billingham bag. But I also recently got the Raven, think that is the model, of the Wotancraft bags. Does nicely, but still prefer Billingham small Hadley for comfort and lots more room. You can't go wrong with them and super well made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregor_24 Posted October 27, 2016 Share #8 Posted October 27, 2016 Maybe you will find a bag here: http://www.oberwerth.com/camera-bag-bayreuth/?_ga=1.195711660.1053841284.1477588613 Regards Gregor Gruss Gregor Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted October 27, 2016 Share #9 Posted October 27, 2016 You might want take a look at the Billingham Hadley Digital. I regularly carry M240 with RRS grip, the 21 SEM with hood, a 75 CSV or 90 Elmarit, and a Summilux 35 along with a spare battery which is whats in the bag in the snap below. In a pinch I grab a soft lens bag and can fit a 50mm Summicron as well. The camera rests face down, so with the 35 attached the bag is tall enough for the 50mm to sit horizontally under it. Its heavily padded with a padded flap that protects the top. The lid covers the sides and so is good at keeping weather out. Very compact, discreet with the camera rapid to hand. To my mind the perfect small kit Leica bag. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265902-crumpler-and-leica-m/?do=findComment&comment=3136825'>More sharing options...
Rob L Posted October 28, 2016 Share #10 Posted October 28, 2016 I have a Crumpler 5 million Dollar home. I love it. I have some nice bags too including a Wotoncraft Raven and Ryker. But I got the Crumpler on ebay for $39 and it is my daily driver, especially for hiking and bad weather days. It easily holds an M240 with a 35 or 50 Summicron mounted and a viewfinder, in the center ( lens down or forward, either way) with room on both sides for a second and third average size Leica lens in neoprene pouches. The $ Million could be a squeeze, I'm not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted October 28, 2016 Share #11 Posted October 28, 2016 Here's what I use for the exact same items - less conspicuously 'camera bag': http://www.gr8gear.com/swiss-gas-mask-bag-olive-drab-salt-pepper.html?gclid=CNvD3L-r-88CFQeraQodZxgLGg Is this bag padded, I like ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeralCoton Posted October 28, 2016 Share #12 Posted October 28, 2016 Oberwerth is very nice and even though handmade it seems less substantial. Probably because of the nylon, but they are nicely done and padded with air inflated pockets. I have really enjoyed my fogg bag. They. Lyre is excellent for the M. The soprano is nice tho a tighter fit. Robert white in the U.K. https://www.robertwhite.co.uk has a number in stock with rapid shipping. Great to work with. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted October 28, 2016 Share #13 Posted October 28, 2016 +1 for the Ona Bowery Bag. I use it since years and no complaints. Can room an M 240, a spare battery, two spare lenses, the EVF, a light flash, the flash batteries, a small Manfrotto Modopocket tripod and a number of spare cards. It's really a great beg and I've got it for around 100 euros in the Leica stores. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted October 28, 2016 Share #14 Posted October 28, 2016 If you don't like the noise of Velcron (Crumpler) and don't like the noise and risks (for your lcd-screen for instance) of iron fasteners (Domke among others) and don't like a bag to be too heavy (ONA, although the strap is almost heavier than the bag itself) and don't like bags to be too tight (Lowe often), then I advise you to seriously consider spending a bit more money on a Billingham. I always thought when I had these former bags that the ideal bag does not exist. Since I work with Billingham I doubt that. I was going to suggest a Billingham, but thought that Nshah might be put off by the prices (but then again, he has invested in a $10,000+ USD kit ). Billingham does make several small bags that are affordable and would be ideal for an M240 & 35 'cron, extra lens and batteries. The Billingham Hadley Pro would be an ideal bag for this kit. I have used a BillHadPro for 13 years now and it is still in great condition; it's like a pair of blue jeans that are just starting to get broken in. IMHO, Billingham offers the best combination of craftsmanship, gear protection, high quality materials, durability, reliability, longevity and cost that is available in the shoulder carried camera bag genre. They also make an outstading backpack that is day pack size, just right for an M kit. Canon and Nikon shooters with large bodies and lenses might find the Billingham backpack a bit on the small side though, depending on how much gear they want to carry. EDIT I just now took a look at the B&H website and found that the tan colored BillHadPro has had a price reduction of $30 and is now priced at $229. B&H is making it hard to say no to this bag... https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/218545-REG/Billingham_505233_Hadley_Pro_Shoulder_Bag.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 28, 2016 Share #15 Posted October 28, 2016 Since this thread has gone way off course (and only 1-2 have tried to answer the OP's actual question), I might as well insert a grumble about most bags: the fastening. Velcro is too noisy, metal buckles are too risky, zips make access inconvenient, and the Billingham and Fogg leather straps with holes that hook over a brass stud are difficult to open and close with one hand. I've come across two better devices which I wish were more widely used: - Magnetic studs. Quiet, one handed use, mainly sewn into the material so no risk to camera parts. I stripped the velcro off my Domke F5XB and fitted two of these fasteners, and couldn't be happier with them. Easy for a thief to open discretely, though. - Push-fit, spring loaded studs. I don't know the proper name, but I'm told they are sometimes used to fasten car soft tops. I have one fastening a custom leather bag. You need two fingers to release the spring cap, and it's a light push to fasten, but it will hold fast if you just pull on the flap. Small, tidy, slightly more metal on show than a magnetic catch, but much stronger, and a pickpocket would need to know how to release it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted October 28, 2016 Share #16 Posted October 28, 2016 These are good alternatives Paul but not completely silent and I happen to like the billingham fasteners very much, it's a feel good action and they are the most silent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bencoyote Posted October 28, 2016 Share #17 Posted October 28, 2016 Had two different Ona bags, trying to find something more fashionable. Sold both. Too heavy, buckles were noisy, and just didn't seem to fit well. I always return to my Billingham bag. But I also recently got the Raven, think that is the model, of the Wotancraft bags. Does nicely, but still prefer Billingham small Hadley for comfort and lots more room. You can't go wrong with them and super well made. I agree I found the Ona Bags poorly designed and though I haven't sold it. I really don't use it. 1) Pantone color of the red rivet doesn't match Leica Red 2) The shoulder pad should have enough space to move the buckle through it so that you can adjust the strap to shorter lengths. 3) The pen loops should be on the zipper closed side of the front pocket. It is hard to get them in and out when they are underneath the zipper pull on the fully open side. They are the most frequently grabbed for item. 4) The pockets in the front could be wider. The items that I want to store in there. are: moleskine notebook, color checker passport, and filters in their cases. I'd get rid of the SD card slot and make the two pockets just a bit wider and everything would be fine. The SD card isn't big enough for a card in a case and these days carrying a 2nd SD card isn't as necessary since they are way over 64G. 5) The side pockets need to have enough space in them to put a water bottle, an umbrella or someone else said a flash in them without intruding on the internal volume. This is probably the most stupidly designed thing about the bag. The side pockets are practically unusable. 6) I would love a clear slot for a few business cards next to your logo under the lid. That way someone could open the bag and see whose it is and I can quickly grab a card to hand someone. 7) maybe put some brass feet on the bottom corners. The place that is showing the most wear on my bag are these bottom corners. In other words, their bag totally doesn't show an attention to detail in the design that compliments a camera where one of its most important implicit features is ATTENTION to DETAIL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Cambern Posted October 29, 2016 Share #18 Posted October 29, 2016 You might want take a look at the Billingham Hadley Digital. I regularly carry M240 with RRS grip, the 21 SEM with hood, a 75 CSV or 90 Elmarit, and a Summilux 35 along with a spare battery which is whats in the bag in the snap below. In a pinch I grab a soft lens bag and can fit a 50mm Summicron as well. The camera rests face down, so with the 35 attached the bag is tall enough for the 50mm to sit horizontally under it. Its heavily padded with a padded flap that protects the top. The lid covers the sides and so is good at keeping weather out. Very compact, discreet with the camera rapid to hand. To my mind the perfect small kit Leica bag. BHDigital.jpg +1! I can even fit the camera with the EVF attached. I typically carry it with 28 Lux, 50 APO, 90 Cron plus spare battery and cards. Extremely versatile for such a small bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 30, 2016 Share #19 Posted October 30, 2016 I think it's time to answer the OPs question directly. I have the Crumpler 4 Million Dollar Bag and the Hadley Pro Digital. The Crumpler is a bit more compact all round but both have similar internal carrying capacity. My personal preference is for the Crumpler although the Hadley still gets plenty of use: Better use of space and allocation of compartments within the Crumpler. The Hadley has a single front flat pouch only. The Crumpler has a rear zipper compartment, a front compartment (albeit not a deep as the Hadley) which has two very useful and secure mesh elastic pockets within. The external fabric loops on the Crumpler for clipping on accessories are much more useful on the Crumpler. I have not noticed any weatherproofing advantage of one over the other. Both are well padded from external shock, perhaps the Hadley a bit better on the top because of the internal top padded flap but otherwise I think the Crumpler is better. I do occasionally bump my camera gear against the metal adjustment clips on the shoulder strap of the Hadley. No such problem on the Crumpler. The inner dividers on the Crumpler are more rigid so often better support for the camera when sitting face down over them. I prefer the more rigid foldover flaps on the top of the Crumpler dividers which both hold items in place AND protect them from rubbing against the camera when it is face down into the middle of the bag. Like the Hadley, the Crumpler has a single top flap catch. The plastic quick release of the Crumpler is less fiddly than the leather strap over the steel pin on the Hadley. The velcro on the Crumpler is a good backup should you be in a rush and forget to lock the catch. Furthermore, the Crumpler can be used with or without the velcro as it has a 'well thought out 'stealth' flap which can be used to cover the velcro to avoid that velcro tearing noise in quiet locations (see below). Both bags are well made but the Crumpler has worn much better despite my having had the Crumpler three times longer, in particular the velcro is already starting to fail on the Hadley dividers. The Crumpler is indestructible. Personally I try not to stow my camera with the EVF fitted in either bag but it does fit in both should you choose. In the photos below you can see the Hadley Digital Pro and Crumpler 4 Million Dollar Home. For example I have loaded the Crumpler is loaded with M240, EVF and 35 Summilux ASPH in the middle (bigger than the Summicron butI don't have one), battery and card in the front pouch, and a 24 Elmar and 75 Summicron in each of the internal side dividers. I should add: 1. if you're taking smaller lenses you can easily fit two of them on top of each other within each of the side divider areas and still get the camera face down above them in either bag. I can even get a 3.4/135 APO-Telyt on one site with the camera body sitting just a bit further to the other side with the bag. 2. if you're using a shorter lens on the camera there is room between the bottom of the lens and the floor of the bag to fit a battery, two rolls of film, or the EVF in it's pouch, or whatever. 3. I have easily fitted the M240, EVF and 28-90 Vario-Elmarit-R face down in the centre of either bag with some room left over for another small lens and accessories. 4. I can even get a second body (film or Monochrom) into one of the side divider spaces if need be. 5. Sometimes I'll attach an small LowePro camera pouch on the side of the Crumpler (can't fit it to the Hadley's useless side leather straps) for my Contax T3 if I'm otherwise shooting digital. These two bags compact, especially the Crumpler, have been my go-to bags for some time. I tend to avoid my larger ones where I can as I can easily get a body and up to three lenses and bits-and-pieces into either bag. Pics in the posts below. Excuse the crappy iPhone photos. I hope this has been helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 30, 2016 Share #20 Posted October 30, 2016 Crumpled 4 Million Dollar Home Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265902-crumpler-and-leica-m/?do=findComment&comment=3138117'>More sharing options...
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