Guest Posted October 23, 2016 Share #1 Posted October 23, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is it possible to copy images from SD-Card in the SL directly to an extenal SSD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ramarren Posted October 24, 2016 Share #2 Posted October 24, 2016 Sure, as long as: - the SSD has logic in it that knows how to read from the SD card and write to its file system, or - a computer in between the SL and the SSD handles writing the SL's files to the file system on the SSD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2016 Share #3 Posted October 24, 2016 It seems that there always has to be a computer! I would like to be able to copy images from SD card to SSD external drive as a backup not using a computer i.e. something I could do when out and about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 24, 2016 Share #4 Posted October 24, 2016 It seems that there always has to be a computer! I would like to be able to copy images from SD card to SSD external drive as a backup not using a computer i.e. something I could do when out and about. If you're talking about not removing the card from the camera, then no, apart from the obvious 2nd card slot. If you're talking about removing the card and backing up without the need for a computer, absolutely. Devices like the Hyperdrive can take an SSD, although the device becomes a bit of a bottle neck. There are quite a few of these, with varying functionality. Some but not all can take a user installed SSD. My hyperdrive just has a 7200RPM 2TB drive in it and it's more than enough for backing up in the field. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoebahydra Posted October 24, 2016 Share #5 Posted October 24, 2016 I use WD My Passport Wireless which has a SD card reader and copy image files directly to the hard drive integrated with internal battery ................ https://www.wdc.com/products/portable-storage/my-passport-wireless-pro.html Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/265779-recording-images-directly-ext-ssd/?do=findComment&comment=3134455'>More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2016 Share #6 Posted October 24, 2016 Haven't come across the My Passport Wireless if it has an SD card reader in it, then that could be exactl what I will go for. Thanks for pointing it out and the link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted October 24, 2016 Share #7 Posted October 24, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) If you're talking about not removing the card from the camera, then no, apart from the obvious 2nd card slot. If you're talking about removing the card and backing up without the need for a computer, absolutely. Devices like the Hyperdrive can take an SSD, although the device becomes a bit of a bottle neck. There are quite a few of these, with varying functionality. Some but not all can take a user installed SSD. My hyperdrive just has a 7200RPM 2TB drive in it and it's more than enough for backing up in the field. Gordon That just means the HyperDrive (or whatever) has a little tiny dedicated computer in it doing the file transfer. You can't get away from having something with logic in it that knows about file systems, reading, and writing files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 24, 2016 Share #8 Posted October 24, 2016 That just means the HyperDrive (or whatever) has a little tiny dedicated computer in it doing the file transfer. You can't get away from having something with logic in it that knows about file systems, reading, and writing files. Yep. But that's probably not what the OP meant when he said direct transfer. By your logic my fridge and washing machine need to be identified as computers. Sometimes I prefer to not overcomplicate things. I'm funny that way. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted October 24, 2016 Share #9 Posted October 24, 2016 Yep. But that's probably not what the OP meant when he said direct transfer. By your logic my fridge and washing machine need to be identified as computers. Sometimes I prefer to not overcomplicate things. I'm funny that way. My new refrigerator, convection/microwave oven, and dishwasher certainly have computers in them that operate their functions. Dumb little ones that don't do anything else, but definitely computers. I don't see it as complicating anything, I see it as simplifying things compared to the mess of gears and analog control mechanisms of the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 25, 2016 Share #10 Posted October 25, 2016 The point as that the bits and bytes on an SD card don’t congregate and someone says “Hey guys, I’ve heard there’s a nearly empty SSD out there and it is just a USB cable away. Let’s start colonising it!” So as the bits and bytes don’t jump over on their own there needs to be an appropriately programmed CPU to take care of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2016 Share #11 Posted October 25, 2016 I think the SD card reader and WD Wireless Passport may be just the think I was looking for. When travelling I don't want to take my computer ever again. With the SL and elnses and that just too much. But a HD and built-in SD reader, that's seems like a good idea to get a backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted October 25, 2016 Share #12 Posted October 25, 2016 I've actually stopped doing backups when traveling (unless it's a paid photo assignment ... hah!). If I go on a three week trip, I'll tend to make 2000-3000 exposures ... That fits nicely on two 128G cards. So I just make my exposures and don't worry about it. Of course, if I do want a back up, just set the SL into 'backup' mode and bring twice as many cards. You'll have a complete copy of card A on card B ... How much more backup do you need? ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2016 Share #13 Posted October 25, 2016 I don't trust backing up to another SD card that's why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted October 25, 2016 Share #14 Posted October 25, 2016 Hmm. Well if you trust backing up to an SSD, technologically you're doing the very same thing as backing up to an SD card. They're both flash memory, solid state read/writable storage media. An SSD is simply a lot more of it with faster speed due to supporting IO electronics. (I stopped making backups during travel when I realized that in three-quarters of a decade and several hundred thousand exposures captured, I'd never once touched a travel backup drive to retrieve a lost image. All those thousands of images backed up onto portable drives during travel represented a lot of time, money, disk space, and effort that had never returned any value to me.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 25, 2016 Share #15 Posted October 25, 2016 Hmm. Well if you trust backing up to an SSD, technologically you're doing the very same thing as backing up to an SD card. They're both flash memory, solid state read/writable storage media. An SSD is simply a lot more of it with faster speed due to supporting IO electronics. (I stopped making backups during travel when I realized that in three-quarters of a decade and several hundred thousand exposures captured, I'd never once touched a travel backup drive to retrieve a lost image. All those thousands of images backed up onto portable drives during travel represented a lot of time, money, disk space, and effort that had never returned any value to me.) With the size of current cards I tend to do the same on short trips. When I started with backup drives (an Epson originally, I think) it was when I was shooting primarily weddings. My shooting partner had one as well and we left with three copies. Cards plus two drives, heading to different addresses. Important for that type of work. For other uses it was just habit. I never lost an image of a card either. I did tend to go the other way though. All the images got copied incrementally to the HDD each day and I used the drive to connect to my laptop at home or in the field. All the images were on one drive so transferring was easy and simple. In a way the cards became a backup to the drive. Plus I had images away from the camera in case of accident or theft. Now I'm more like you. If I'm not interested in image review I'll just shoot to twin memory cards. Otherwise I'll have my laptop and I don't need the Hyperdrive. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2016 Share #16 Posted October 25, 2016 Maybe I am paranoid about backups that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 26, 2016 Share #17 Posted October 26, 2016 Maybe I am paranoid about backups that's all. Nothing wrong with that. Having lost images in the past (film not digital) I can attest at how upsetting it can be. I'm still put out by 30 rolls I had stolen just before posting them home from East Africa and I'd just had them processed so I know exactly what I lost. And that was 20 years ago this year. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2016 Share #18 Posted October 26, 2016 Hi Gordon, thanks I have lost film in the past, and I have lost some digital images with a SD card that was bad and I could not recover data from even with recovery software. So this is what makes me very careful in my use of cards and backups. I have used other methods as well like using two 16GB cards and letting the SL copy the images to both, but somehow I don't trust that completely and a part of me says I need another backup additionally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvaliquette Posted October 27, 2016 Share #19 Posted October 27, 2016 I have yet to loose a digital image, but I once had an Ektachrome 36 exposures roll processed in C22 chemistry! Arghh!!! Guy By the way, after having used a JOBO for backup on my R9-DMR, I got the original Hyperdrive UDMA2. It looks like JOBO sold the design (and patent(s)?) to Sanho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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