jchfriis Posted September 22, 2016 Share #41 Posted September 22, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Guys, Posted a few months ago regarding the decision between the M240 and M262. I am in a bit of a predicament looking for some advice... I have spent a considerable amount of money and time on my photography education. I haven't been to school for it or anything like that but I started with a digital slr and was taught on that for a while. Once I picked up the basics I decided it was time for something a bit different so I went in the direction of a micro 4/3. I still have my Olympus and love it. But I got a Leica Q when they were released and have really enjoyed it. It put the Leica bug in my ear and the camera of them all that I've always had dreams of is an M. Here's the predicament...I consider myself to be a good photographer but not great obviously. I am lucky enough to have the means to buy into an M system setup. I'm worried however that even with pictures I think are ok on the M they in actual fact might not be if that makes sense. I have seen other members photos and they blow mine away. So my question is. Is it a worthwhile investment if I'm really willing to spend the time learning and getting better. Or is is definitely a camera for advanced-professional? Thanks for reading! Just go ahead and get that M system. I'm sure you won't regret it. And if against all odds you do, it will be very easy to sell. I'm and old guy who started with all kinds of film cameras and finally ended up with a M6 and never looked back. I now have a M8 and one day soon I'll get a new M 262. I also have an Olympus system which is great for its use, but the camera I love and use the most is the Leica. We tend to forget that photography is basically about four parameters: ISO, aperture, shutter speed and focus. All the rest are bells and whistles. When look at the pictures I have made, the ones that stand out are mostly taken with a Rollei 35 and the Leicas. The Leica M is not a camera only for the advanced-professional. In my view its for people who love simplicity and photography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kaiserphoenix Posted October 24, 2016 Share #42 Posted October 24, 2016 Im in a similar boat as you. I am relatively "new" to leicas, I shoot with a Nikon D810 for Macro and timelapse landscape stuff, and I have a Leica Q which I bought when it came out for street/holiday stuff. The Q is amazing, small, light discreet and takes amazing photos.However to me the 28mm was becoming somewhat annoying as I found myself cropping alot in LR which meant that I was losing alot of pixels. I recently was able to rent a Leica M262 + Summilux 50mm for a weekend as I wanted to try the equipment before committing to such a huge amount of money and I have to say that I love this set up. I am probably more in love with the lens than the actual camera in all honesty, the Leica M262 is for me basic at best (which is its strength), does not excel at fast moving stuff obviously but the stuff people are saying about practice is true. At first the range finder is abit complicated and you will find that your photos will be out of focus occasionally but once you learn the direction by feel, the focusing is much faster and ofcourse you can do pre-focusing as well. Furthermore it has actually allowed me to be more tolerant of the "photo", ie photos dont always HAVE to be fully in focus in all honesty, its about the composition of the photo and being creative, and not trying to create a "technically amazing" photo etcetc although if thats what you want, thats cool too. Overall I love the Summilux 50 1.4.....just that to use that lens I have to buy an M and for me thats the predicament haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterGA Posted October 24, 2016 Share #43 Posted October 24, 2016 The M system for me was always about the glass - the rangefinder was the best manual focusing system I could find - mated to the best glass money could buy. Now the best manual focusing system for M glass is the SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted October 24, 2016 Share #44 Posted October 24, 2016 Furthermore it has actually allowed me to be more tolerant of the "photo", ie photos dont always HAVE to be fully in focus in all honesty, its about the composition of the photo and being creative, and not trying to create a "technically amazing" photo etcetc although if thats what you want, thats cool too. Amen. The nice thing about MF is that it is possible, as one reacquaints oneself with its charms, that you begin to recognize that focus accuracy can be as powerful a creative tool as any in one's arsenal. Something lost from the consciousness of many in the age of computer driven, cross point, face detecting, continuous tracking AF systems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2016 Share #45 Posted October 24, 2016 Hi Guys, Posted a few months ago regarding the decision between the M240 and M262. I am in a bit of a predicament looking for some advice... I have spent a considerable amount of money and time on my photography education. I haven't been to school for it or anything like that but I started with a digital slr and was taught on that for a while. Once I picked up the basics I decided it was time for something a bit different so I went in the direction of a micro 4/3. I still have my Olympus and love it. But I got a Leica Q when they were released and have really enjoyed it. It put the Leica bug in my ear and the camera of them all that I've always had dreams of is an M. Here's the predicament...I consider myself to be a good photographer but not great obviously. I am lucky enough to have the means to buy into an M system setup. I'm worried however that even with pictures I think are ok on the M they in actual fact might not be if that makes sense. I have seen other members photos and they blow mine away. So my question is. Is it a worthwhile investment if I'm really willing to spend the time learning and getting better. Or is is definitely a camera for advanced-professional? Thanks for reading! Professionals on the whole tend to cameras that allow them to turn out a large number of photos in a short time ... as in time is money. Advanced photographers are those in my opinion who have made a number of bad choices over the years concerning the new new thing and are at the point that they return to basics. My advice ... which you will most probably ignore ... is to rent a RF Leica and a summicron ... 35 or 50 and discover if you can bond with it. Not for a day ... at least a week ... better a month when you can shoot every day ... every evening ... every morning ... couple of hours a day. You will soon discover that it is one of the most basic simple was of viewing and capturing what you see. Not to manipulate the vision ... just articulate it. Nothing comes close to the M experience ... if it aligns with your worldview it is ideal ... if not there is a whole universe of complicated menu driven computers with lenses that will suffice. Regards, Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 29, 2016 Share #46 Posted October 29, 2016 I would suggest that the volume argument does not apply to professionals in general. Some go for quantity, others for quality. The argument is not new: HCB vs. Winogrand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
almoore Posted October 29, 2016 Share #47 Posted October 29, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would suggest that the volume argument does not apply to professionals in general. Some go for quantity, others for quality. The argument is not new: HCB vs. Winogrand Are you suggesting that Winogrand's work is lacking in quality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 29, 2016 Share #48 Posted October 29, 2016 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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