jto555 Posted September 8, 2016 Share #1 Posted September 8, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is maddening! I used the camera this morning and all was well, my second shoot this afternoon the camera had reset itself to factury default settings. I only noticed when I wen to check the ISO just before the shoot and found that I was on Auto ISO. This would have really messed up my manual flash shots! Right, the camera is about 9 months old Firmware is 2.0.3 Battery was fresh and at 100%. The battery that came out to be charged before I left for the second shoot was at 30%. I did NOT reset the camera setting instead of formating the card, however I did format the card in the camera. If I had reset the camera instead of formating the card the photos from the earlier shoot would still have been on the card. This seems to happed about once or twice a year and it "does my head in". Thank God that Leica have changed the default setting to include shooting RAW. But that really is not good enough. Has anybody else had this happen with the latest firmware? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted September 8, 2016 Share #2 Posted September 8, 2016 It happens, but it is to me just a minor annoyance - I choose my profile in the set menu before each shoot anyway. My other little trick is that I have the framelines in red in my standard user profile, so I notice immediately when I am in some other profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted September 9, 2016 Share #3 Posted September 9, 2016 You mention this happening with the new firmware installed, what about before the update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 9, 2016 Share #4 Posted September 9, 2016 Speaking of firmware: installing the new firmware most likely resets the camera, or so I have read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted September 9, 2016 Jaapv, that is a very good idea. Steve, yes it has happened before with each of the firmwares. About once or twice a year and the camera has been back to Leica. My guess is there is still a bug in the firmware. Philipp, yes installing a firmware update does reset the camera. However I did not do a firmware update yesterday before the camera reset itself. I have two bodies and both have had the same reset issue. I guess I am just lucky... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted September 9, 2016 Share #6 Posted September 9, 2016 Luckily I've never had that happen to me. Fingers crossed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted September 9, 2016 Share #7 Posted September 9, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) We talk about 'firmware' rather than 'software'. The normal distinction firmware sets up an FPGA at boot time to configure the logic within the device, software differs in being a decision based engine resulting in branching, looping etc and it's probably fair to say software has more potential for errors for medium complex programmes. However, FPGA firmware is somewhat easier to debug and probably more deterministic in nature. If it's the case that the M240 is running firmware, I find it surprising that the designers have not fully debugged the code. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 9, 2016 Share #8 Posted September 9, 2016 Jaapv, that is a very good idea. Not only that, I find that, after a short getting-used-to period, red is much nicer to use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 9, 2016 Share #9 Posted September 9, 2016 We talk about 'firmware' rather than 'software'. The normal distinction firmware sets up an FPGA at boot time to configure the logic within the device, software differs in being a decision based engine resulting in branching, looping etc and it's probably fair to say software has more potential for errors for medium complex programmes. However, FPGA firmware is somewhat easier to debug and probably more deterministic in nature. If it's the case that the M240 is running firmware, I find it surprising that the designers have not fully debugged the code. The thing that lives within a Leica camera can be properly called "software". The distinction between "firmware" and "software" is becoming moot, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 9, 2016 Share #10 Posted September 9, 2016 The thing that lives within a Leica camera can be properly called "software". The distinction between "firmware" and "software" is becoming moot, anyway. You can edit and change software. You cannot fiddle with firmware. No such thing as becoming moot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share #11 Posted September 9, 2016 Well, I wish Leica would fix the issue somehow. I have sent an email into Leica about the reset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 9, 2016 Share #12 Posted September 9, 2016 You can edit and change software. You cannot fiddle with firmware. No such thing as becoming moot. Fuji calls the thing within the camera an OS and software. They have a software development system. The camera has embedded computers, those computers are programmed and programs usually are called "software". The fact that I personally can not change that software is immaterial. I can not change the software in my cell phone, either. More information here: http://www.fujitsu.com/downloads/EDG/binary/pdf/find/24-1e/3.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 9, 2016 Share #13 Posted September 9, 2016 Well, I wish Leica would fix the issue somehow. I have sent an email into Leica about the reset. Good luck The problem dates back to the M9... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted September 9, 2016 Share #14 Posted September 9, 2016 Good luck The problem dates back to the M9... Give those guys at Leica a break, it's only been 6 years or so, lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted September 10, 2016 Share #15 Posted September 10, 2016 You can edit and change software. You cannot fiddle with firmware. No such thing as becoming moot. Sure you can. Field Programmable Gate Arrays have been around since the '80s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted September 10, 2016 Share #16 Posted September 10, 2016 FPGA code is usually written in C, but Boolean will do as well. And of course it can be edited compiled and reloaded into the E^2. That's the benefit of FPGAs it's an uncommitted array of gates and functions. At boot time the silicon array is configured by the stored programme, and then works as a hard-wired array. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 10, 2016 Share #17 Posted September 10, 2016 Sure you can. Field Programmable Gate Arrays have been around since the '80s. That is software, not firmware. Firmware, by definition, is read only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted September 10, 2016 Share #18 Posted September 10, 2016 Someone at Leica is probably reading the thread and thinking, 'ah, that's how it works; back to the drawing board and quick!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 10, 2016 Share #19 Posted September 10, 2016 That is software, not firmware. Firmware, by definition, is read only. Can you provide a link to that definition? It seems to be a most unusual one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted September 10, 2016 Share #20 Posted September 10, 2016 Can you provide a link to that definition? It seems to be a most unusual one. There are many definitions available that all say the same thing... but here is an example. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmware Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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