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Hello:

 

I just sold my last film camera, a Cosina Voigtlander Bessa R-2 with 40mm f2.8 Summicron C lens. I have a Canon 20D with lenses to shoot everyday assignments, but for my personal, social documentary black and white work, I want a small, quiet camera with about a 35mm focal length. I shoot for "moments", so the camera needs to have a fast shutter response, good low light performance, etc. I cannot rely on an electronic viewfinder...it just isn't my style of shooting (I used to have M-series film cameras).:confused:

 

I absolutely cannot afford an M8; it seems my choices are an Epson RD-1, or a Leica/Pana Digilux 3. There are no dealers around here (an hour south of Pittsburgh) that I can pick up and feel a Leica, so I wanted to get some feedback from this forum.

 

Is the Digilux 3 a photojournalist's camera?

 

Thanks,

 

Joel

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The Digilux is not a toy - punktum is either confusing it with the D-Lux 3 (which is a nice point-n-shoot, but not much more) or he is being a prat.

 

I don't know what you consider a photojournalist's camera - there are various brands that make cameras for specific types of jobs. I wouldn't take a Digilux to Iraq - it's not dust-sealed.

 

I gather a Digilux 3 was used to shoot a Sports Illustrated Swim Suit pictoral, there's a link to a thread here.

 

I don't know all the available 4/3rd lenses - that's the name of the camera mount for this particular camera. There's a number of independent camera companies and lens builders that are supporting this mount, you can learn more about it here.

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I don't know what you consider a photojournalist's camera - there are various brands that make cameras for specific types of jobs. I wouldn't take a Digilux to Iraq - it's not dust-sealed.

 

I guess what I mean is mostly in the way it is used, e.g., to capture the "decisive moment" rather than posed or set up shots. My way of shooting is very much based on timing and framing moments of interaction or emotion, which are fleeting and not something you consider on the ground glass or LED screen. I do not need a selection of lenses, as 95% of my images are from a 35mm focal length (35mm film camera equivalent) lens. I will not shoot sports or studio work with the camera.

 

When I worked on the America 24/7 book, they gave us Olympus cameras that had too long a shutter lag. My timing was all wrong. I just couldn't work with the camera, so I borrowed a Nikon D1H.

 

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I don't have one, but am thinking of adding one, so please take all my comments with that particular-sized pinch of salt! I've been doing some research of my own, so I'm just passing that through to you. Hopefully actual owners will chime in...

 

My understanding is that if you're shooting through the viewfinder, there will be no shutter lag - it works like any SLR. If you choose to compose through the screen on the back there will be a delay. I don't think the viewfinder is electronic.

 

The current lenses can be seen on the 4/3rd site I linked above. There seems to be no 35mm-equivalent focal length prime lenses, only a 48mm Sigma and a 50mm Leica lens. However, there are several wide and standard zooms that cover that focal length. They're not particularly fast lenses, (f/4 or f/2.8-3.5 respectively) but the low-light capabilities of the camera's sensors are supposed to be quite good.

 

In general, the 4/3rd mount is well supported, and there will be more lenses coming to market.

 

I don't know how you're going to do it, but you're going to have to get your hands on one to really get a sense. I don't know what B&H's return policy is, but think about ordering one and returning it if you're unhappy. Or face the music, and drive to a town with a big Leica retailer.

 

But keep asking here, I'm sure more people will be helpful.

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I was one of those peapoble terrify by the comments i heard about the digilux 2. When I bought it I fall in love instantly. The same thing happen to me with the digilux 3. No regrets.

I just wish it has a better magnification and smaller body. No a big deal any way. I read about eyecup magnifications made my olympus a pentax and i hope a digilux 4 has this upgrade plus a smallerbody.

Maybe smaller lenses in the future will be a plus. if zeiss ikon or cosina get in the 4/3 with prime manual focus lenses that will be the tultimate reflex for me. like the m8 reflex. but thas just a dream.

 

Thinkin about it. you can buy the L1 in amazon (as i did) for $1080 (almos the price of the lens) and wait for a digilux 4 body with upgrades.

 

I recomen sean reviews too.

 

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Hello:

 

I just sold my last film camera, a Cosina Voigtlander Bessa R-2 with 40mm f2.8 Summicron C lens. I have a Canon 20D with lenses to shoot everyday assignments, but for my personal, social documentary black and white work, I want a small, quiet camera with about a 35mm focal length. I shoot for "moments", so the camera needs to have a fast shutter response, good low light performance, etc. I cannot rely on an electronic viewfinder...it just isn't my style of shooting (I used to have M-series film cameras).:confused:

 

I absolutely cannot afford an M8; it seems my choices are an Epson RD-1, or a Leica/Pana Digilux 3. There are no dealers around here (an hour south of Pittsburgh) that I can pick up and feel a Leica, so I wanted to get some feedback from this forum.

 

Is the Digilux 3 a photojournalist's camera?

 

Thanks,

 

Joel

 

Small and quiet does not describe the D3/L1! My initial reaction was "get yourself a D2" as it is small(er) and silent; but then I read your 2nd post and had some 2nd thoughts as the D2 is not the fastest working camera in the world. Having said that it can be made to work quickly using jpeg (at which it is pretty good) and manual focus, so maybe it's worth considering.

 

May I suggest Sean's review of the D3?

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Olympus cameras that had too long a shutter lag

 

That's an Olympus and it "was" an L1 before V2.0

Now it don't exist anymore on an L1 v2.0 with a 150x SD shooting Raw.

It fires while your previous Raw shot is still loading.

 

-Ron

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I do not need a selection of lenses, as 95% of my images are from a 35mm focal length (35mm film camera equivalent) lens. I will not shoot sports or studio work with the camera.

 

The R-D1, unlike your old R2, has a 1.0x magnification viewfinder. You will likely need an external viewfinder in order to shoot 35mm film camera equivalent length.

 

Best regards,

 

-Jason

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Joel,

I have now my D3 sind April 1st. Ti me it is a marvellous camera.It is not that fast in RAW, as it writes JPG & RAW simultaneous. For me, an amateur, the lens of 28-100 mm (35mm eq.) is sufficient for landscape and people.

Please read the Reid review on D3 as earlier suggested.

Good luck with your decision.

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Any camera can do virtually any job unless you take it to extreme weather conditions. The D3/L1 in not small, it has basically the same size than my D80. I agree with stnami, if you want a quiet/small camera other than a DSLR I don't see any other option than the R-D1.

 

(I have read nothing but positive reviews of the Ricoh GX100 though)

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Thank you for all the information. I will read the reviews. As Epson has discontinued the RD-1 in the USA, does anyone have suggestions where to buy one? What sort of problems should I look for in an RD-1?

 

Is the RD-1 shutter quieter than the Bessa R2 or the same, as they are both Cosina-made with the vertical metal shutter....

 

Joel

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An afterthought on fast primes: you can obtain a conversion ring and fit Olympus OM lenses. Though you lose the auto-focus, of course ...

 

There's a discussion here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/24429-om-lenses-l-1k-d3.html

 

Like many others posting to this thread, I have been reading with dismay the many hostile (and sometimes uninformed and uncritical) remarks about the D3. It shouldn't make a difference, but it does. A quick plug for Sean Reid: his relaxed, good-humoured review of the D3 did much to restore my spirits. As an amateur for whom this was a nerve-wracking investment, the more I use the D3 the more I like it for its handling and simple access to controls.

 

As to photo-journalism, I would not dare to make any recommendation: it really is a question of subjective preference.

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I am intrigued by Sean's review of the D2. With a shoe-mounted finder and jpeg setting, it seems that the camera can be adapted to work more like a film M-series camera (small, quiet shutter, fast operation, low light, etc.). Maybe not optimal, but it may work for me until a better alternative arrives. The RD-1 seems closest, but the lens I would most likely use (a Zeiss Biogon 25mm f2.8) produces vignetting. I don't relish the idea of photoshopping out vignetting in all my pictures....

 

Why is the D2 quieter than the D3?

 

Joel

 

 

 

Small and quiet does not describe the D3/L1! My initial reaction was "get yourself a D2" as it is small(er) and silent; but then I read your 2nd post and had some 2nd thoughts as the D2 is not the fastest working camera in the world. Having said that it can be made to work quickly using jpeg (at which it is pretty good) and manual focus, so maybe it's worth considering.

 

May I suggest Sean's review of the D3?

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Thank you for all the information. I will read the reviews. As Epson has discontinued the RD-1 in the USA, does anyone have suggestions where to buy one? What sort of problems should I look for in an RD-1?

 

Is the RD-1 shutter quieter than the Bessa R2 or the same, as they are both Cosina-made with the vertical metal shutter....

 

Joel

 

Hi Joel,

 

In addition to the articles on my site, this may be of interest:

 

Epson R-D1 Review

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

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