cirke Posted July 6, 2016 Share #1 Posted July 6, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Strange that there are no rumors about a new M, in general we know it 3 or 4 months before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Exodies Posted July 6, 2016 Share #2 Posted July 6, 2016 I thought we'd been told there would be no new M this Photokina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted July 6, 2016 I did not know , but 4 years without replacement seems very long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted July 6, 2016 Share #4 Posted July 6, 2016 Based on what other vendors have launched/are rumoured to launch, Leica has to increase the pixel count in both M, S and SL. Or, alternatively, present two versions of a system; one stripped version with a modest MP count and another more expensive/technically advanced version. Whether Leica choses to use Photokina or - as has been the case for the last releases - prefer to run their own show, remains to be seen. Personally, I am very curious about the next M - whenever it will materialise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted July 6, 2016 I am very curious too, I shall sell all my M gear (and maybe all Leica gear) or upgrade , depending on the next M , I shall not go on with optical RF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 6, 2016 Share #6 Posted July 6, 2016 Based on what other vendors have launched/are rumoured to launch, Leica has to increase the pixel count in both M, S and SL. Or, alternatively, present two versions of a system; one stripped version with a modest MP count and another more expensive/technically advanced version. Whether Leica choses to use Photokina or - as has been the case for the last releases - prefer to run their own show, remains to be seen. Personally, I am very curious about the next M - whenever it will materialise. I'm not so sure - I think the pixel count for a reportage camera is about maxed out @ 24 Too many technical difficulties for handheld photography at high resolution - and the M is not a tripod/flash camera. Leica might be of the same opinion - and they have never taken competition much into account with the M - no real competitors. They might increase the MP for the SL, maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 6, 2016 Share #7 Posted July 6, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I shall sell all my M gear Actually I am a bit surprised that you did not do so on introduction of the SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted July 6, 2016 Share #8 Posted July 6, 2016 I am very curious too, I shall sell all my M gear (and maybe all Leica gear) or upgrade , depending on the next M , I shall not go on with optical RF Erick, I think you have expressed your preference for EVFs previously. I am sympathetic to your views. Although I like the Leica rangefinder system, probably due to familiarity with it over 40+ years I am very impressed by the advantages of modern EVFs which not only give a very clear image but have many advantages such as magnification, adjustment of brightness not to mention image stabilisation if the sensor has IS. The ideal would be to have both optical and electronic viewfinders but it would be difficult to fit it all in without a comprehensive redesign of the M. I hope Leica has a nice surprise for us when the next M is revealed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardM Posted July 6, 2016 Share #9 Posted July 6, 2016 About year ago i did concrete and precise preditction - "New M. This year. This Fall". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted July 6, 2016 Actually I am a bit surprised that you did not do so on introduction of the SL. I shall certainly do it if nothing comes , and the next SL 50 Summilux is very attractive but now there is a new actor with Hasselblad X1D, a MF system with 3 lenses cheaper than the SL with 2 lenses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share #11 Posted July 6, 2016 About year ago i did concrete and precise preditction - "New M. This year. This Fall". Fall = Photokina , I'll be there You know maybe something precisely ? :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 6, 2016 Share #12 Posted July 6, 2016 I shall certainly do it if nothing comes , and the next SL 50 Summilux is very attractive but now there is a new actor with Hasselblad X1D, a MF system with 3 lenses cheaper than the SL with 2 lenses Yes- but it depends on your style of photography whether Medium Format makes sense - and the lens system is very limited. At least the SL covers a wide range of focal lengths and has the option to take a large number of M and R and other legacy lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share #13 Posted July 6, 2016 Yes- but it depends on your style of photography whether Medium Format makes sense - and the lens system is very limited. At least the SL covers a wide range of focal lengths and has the option to take a large number of M and R and other legacy lenses. I had an Hasselblad H + 3 lenses before, the main problem was the portability I dont like the 2 SL zooms , for me actually the SL has only a 50 Summilux and I love my M lenses :-) small and f/1.4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted July 6, 2016 Share #14 Posted July 6, 2016 It's pixels at Photokina or bust, for me. M or S, I don't mind. Leica can pretend, or believe, all they like, that pixels don't matter but if they can't get with the program and offer something that photographers in the modern world ***need*** (ymmv) then I will have to adopt one of the many other excellent options on offer, from a brand that understands, and is a better future investment. I will be changing my style a little, but so be it, it is becoming too costly to hold onto now and waiting for something that may or may not occur some years down the track is something I have lost patience with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 6, 2016 Share #15 Posted July 6, 2016 The problem is not that it does not matter. The problem is that in many cases too high a pixel count will negatively impact handheld photography. For my use a 50 MP M camera would be a nono to replace my M240. Should Leica decide to bring out a 50 MP M to keep up with the Joneses they must have a camera in the 20 MP class as well to maintain quality with the intended use of this type of camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share #16 Posted July 6, 2016 it could be a M with 36mp and body stabilization + Electronic RF I agree with Paul J , at least the S should come with 50 mp , and mirrorless + all what comes with a today camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share #17 Posted July 6, 2016 and Fuji is coming too http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/fuji-will-launch-hasselblad-x1d-competition-soon/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budfox Posted July 6, 2016 Share #18 Posted July 6, 2016 Nikon D5 = 20MP. How can they seriously expect to sell any of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregm61 Posted July 6, 2016 Share #19 Posted July 6, 2016 There are PLENTY of cameras out there for those who prefer an electronic finder. there's only one for those who like/prefer using optical rangefinders. The M system is, what it is. That's why I like and use it instead of the electronic finder-equipped cameras I was using before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share #20 Posted July 6, 2016 No there are not plenty of cameras with so many good and small and 1.4 lenses , there is only one, and I want to use these lenses on a M with EVF or ERF The M system is, what it is then why don't you shoot only films then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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