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Ok thanks very much for clarifying this. I thought this was the case.  I think that in the long-term the M-A will hold its value better than the M-D, unless of course they can add in firmware a means to format a card. Without that I would now never buy the M-D. I handled one yesterday, nice camera, but without having to resort to a computer it is dead in the water for me. That's a pity.

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.. but without having to resort to a computer it is dead in the water for me. That's a pity.

 

Why? You still have to download the images to the computer from the card no matter what camera you have. Formatting the card in the computer after the download is hardly a step that takes so much more effort.

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It is not the effort put I rarely have a computer with me. I take images on multiple cards. I review them briefly on the SL screen, that tells me I got it or failed take another. When I am home then they see a computer. The big difference is the screen on the camera. That allows me to be happy that I have an image, so I do not need a computer with me all the time. That is less weight to cart around - it just does not make sense at all to have a digital camera that is unable to do things without resort to a computer.

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If you use a screen on a digital camera, it is not wise to buy one without.

 

Yes I was looking after seeing various people saying that the M-D is a really good camera to buy. I have gone from all AF lenses back to all MF lenses. I guess this is why my interest was piqued in the M-D. However I am happy with the SL (for its excellent viewfinder and review screen, as I like to call it) and M and R lenses.

 

There is the M-A too, now that is all analogue. I actually may yet go and have a serious look at this camera in preference to an M-D. I know it takes film, and there is no review until the film is developed, as it used to be. It is my believe that the M-A would hold its value better than the M-D. So if I did buy an M, this sort of 'personal feeling' would sway me more. But I may never buy an M as I find the SL much easier to focus.

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Does anybody have recommendations for the best card type for M-D?  I bought mine with a bundled 32GB/95MB/s SanDisk Extreme Pro, which I now see is notoriously slow for the Typ 240 ... Just wondering if anyone has any experience / speed comparison with different card types for the Typ 262 cameras (or if indeed there is any difference compared to the other Ms).

 

Thanks in advance! 

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Yes I was looking after seeing various people saying that the M-D is a really good camera to buy. I have gone from all AF lenses back to all MF lenses. I guess this is why my interest was piqued in the M-D. However I am happy with the SL (for its excellent viewfinder and review screen, as I like to call it) and M and R lenses.

 

There is the M-A too, now that is all analogue. I actually may yet go and have a serious look at this camera in preference to an M-D. I know it takes film, and there is no review until the film is developed, as it used to be. It is my believe that the M-A would hold its value better than the M-D. So if I did buy an M, this sort of 'personal feeling' would sway me more. But I may never buy an M as I find the SL much easier to focus.

This appears to be a case of GAS rather than photographic need. In your place I would stick with the SL and the lens set you are happy with. If you want an M camera to play around with I would advise you to buy a vintage film camera of your choice. A mint M6 classic might be a good choice if you want internal metering, otherwise there is a wide choice. It makes no sense to buy a new MA just for occasional use.

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It makes no sense to buy a new MA just for occasional use.

 

I agree with you on that point. I also still use 16GB cards - San Disk Extreme 90MB/s and also 16GB/95MB/s SanDisk Extreme Pro.

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Does anybody have recommendations for the best card type for M-D? I bought mine with a bundled 32GB/95MB/s SanDisk Extreme Pro, which I now see is notoriously slow for the Typ 240 ... Just wondering if anyone has any experience / speed comparison with different card types for the Typ 262 cameras (or if indeed there is any difference compared to the other Ms).

 

Thanks in advance!

Hi, it has been quite famous that for some reason, amongst Sandisk Extrme Pro 95mb/s series, only 32GB is noticeably slow on M240 and its brothers.

 

I have checked that on my M-D as well, and although it is not as bad as on M240 it is still slower compared to 16GB or 64GB which I have.

 

So I am sorry to say this but you should better try Sandisk Extrme pro 16GB or 64GB, and if you could also find the difference switch to either one.

 

 

 

 

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It is not the effort put I rarely have a computer with me. I take images on multiple cards. I review them briefly on the SL screen, that tells me I got it or failed take another. When I am home then they see a computer. The big difference is the screen on the camera. That allows me to be happy that I have an image, so I do not need a computer with me all the time. That is less weight to cart around - it just does not make sense at all to have a digital camera that is unable to do things without resort to a computer.

 

Still has nothing to do with what you asked about in the first post. You asked about formatting. Not reviewing pictures. I think Jaaps post nails it.

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Yes I was looking after seeing various people saying that the M-D is a really good camera to buy. I have gone from all AF lenses back to all MF lenses. I guess this is why my interest was piqued in the M-D. However I am happy with the SL (for its excellent viewfinder and review screen, as I like to call it) and M and R lenses.

 

There is the M-A too, now that is all analogue. I actually may yet go and have a serious look at this camera in preference to an M-D. I know it takes film, and there is no review until the film is developed, as it used to be. It is my believe that the M-A would hold its value better than the M-D. So if I did buy an M, this sort of 'personal feeling' would sway me more. But I may never buy an M as I find the SL much easier to focus.

 

 

LOL! Your GAS is at odds with itself.  :)

 

Never buy a camera on the basis of "it will hold its value better than" something else. Buy a camera because you want its particular capabilities to make photographs. Cameras are tools, not investments. 

 

The M-D is a capture-only device, like the M-A (or my M4-2, or any other film camera other than an instant film camera). It requires other machinery and process to see what you've captured with it. 

 

If I were you, I'd stick with your SL and enjoy making photographs. Eschew buying another camera until you find yourself actually wanting another camera because of its unique capabilities that differentiate it from your SL. 

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Does anybody have recommendations for the best card type for M-D?  I bought mine with a bundled 32GB/95MB/s SanDisk Extreme Pro, which I now see is notoriously slow for the Typ 240 ... Just wondering if anyone has any experience / speed comparison with different card types for the Typ 262 cameras (or if indeed there is any difference compared to the other Ms).

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

I have been using my M-P typ 240 with those self-same SanDisk Extreme Pro 32G 95Mbps cards. I compared its performance with them against a few other cards ... a couple of "slow" Transcend cards, a couple of HP cards, and the nominally faster Lexar 128G UHS2 cards I use in the SL. There were no significant differences in performance.

 

I'd not worry about it overmuch. The typ 262 cameras, just like the typ 240 cameras, are not rapid-fire sequence cameras like a Nikon D4 or D5, and simply don't benefit enough from worrying about maximum storage transfer speeds to bother. They've got enough buffer space to handle quick shooting if not fast sequence work, and are very responsive to the shutter release. 

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I don't know about GAZ and LOL, but I think that's a wee unfair. I was actually thinking of buying an M as a second camera. I did not want to buy a film camera, so my interest was piqued when I realized that the Type 262 is offered new as a film camera or as a digital without rear screen. Both of these are pretty unique now. I cannot think of anyone else creating such cameras.

 

Anyway I just wanted to find out about the SD formatting because I was in a Leica shop and they & I looked online at the manual and we could not ascertain from the printed material the answer. So ramarren thanks for that.

 

As to asking or wanting further advice for a second camera I think I will not bother this forum anymore on that subject and just follow my own instincts. A digital camera that cannot format the media I have to say doesn't make sense. So we beg to differ on that, humble apologies if my opinion is different to anyone reading this in the free world.

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Let me just remind that to format SD card on computer is only like 10 seconds job so there should be no fuss  :)

(We don't even always format SD cards. Deleting images are mostly good enough.)

 

So people can blame MD for having no LCD but for the formatting function,,, that makes no real difference in usability !  :rolleyes:

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I don't know about GAZ and LOL, but I think that's a wee unfair. I was actually thinking of buying an M as a second camera. I did not want to buy a film camera, so my interest was piqued when I realized that the Type 262 is offered new as a film camera or as a digital without rear screen. Both of these are pretty unique now. I cannot think of anyone else creating such cameras.

 

Anyway I just wanted to find out about the SD formatting because I was in a Leica shop and they & I looked online at the manual and we could not ascertain from the printed material the answer. So ramarren thanks for that.

 

As to asking or wanting further advice for a second camera I think I will not bother this forum anymore on that subject and just follow my own instincts. A digital camera that cannot format the media I have to say doesn't make sense. So we beg to differ on that, humble apologies if my opinion is different to anyone reading this in the free world.

I agree. But then neither does a digital camera without a rear screen. As you you don't want a film camera, the M-A is ruled out. The choice is obvious: a M240.  :)

 

Edit: for the avoidance of future confusion the M Type 262 is NOT offered as a film camera as per your post; it is just a digital camera.

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