roelandinho Posted June 17, 2016 Share #1 Posted June 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello fellow forum members! The first image I post here: https://flic.kr/p/Jck53W I welcome all constructive criticism. What do you think? In particular, I would like to hear your thoughts about the composition, the structure of the image, and the processing. Thank you! :-) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/261698-inside-the-windmill/?do=findComment&comment=3063325'>More sharing options...
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GLOBETROTTER Posted June 17, 2016 Share #2 Posted June 17, 2016 Well is a nice photo but in B&W will have more strength. The wheels has a lot of presence with his movement and are a little bit distracting moreover due to the low visibility of his face. A closer frame emphasizing the presence of the protagonist would have had more impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted June 17, 2016 Well is a nice photo but in B&W will have more strength. The wheels has a lot of presence with his movement and are a little bit distracting moreover due to the low visibility of his face. A closer frame emphasizing the presence of the protagonist would have had more impact. I think it could also work in B&W, yes. But I chose color because I feel that way I can use it to support the mood of the image. The weels indeed have a lot of presence, and that is because they are secondary subjects and support the story. The eyes of the viewer should go to the man first (he is highest contrast), then to the weels and the hand on the stairs. Secondary subjects fill the frame and balance each other out. I like subtlety and balance, more than strength and impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOBETROTTER Posted June 17, 2016 Share #4 Posted June 17, 2016 I think it could also work in B&W, yes. But I chose color because I feel that way I can use it to support the mood of the image. The weels indeed have a lot of presence, and that is because they are secondary subjects and support the story. The eyes of the viewer should go to the man first (he is highest contrast), then to the weels and the hand on the stairs. Secondary subjects fill the frame and balance each other out. I like subtlety and balance, more than strength and impact. The eyes of the viewer not should go where you think they should go, the view go where the point of interest is. And the wheels are very very distracting.............only with a B&W and Huge vignetting the subject will stand out among the rest increasing the light on it of course. But as we have a different view about photography better each his own. Goodbye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted June 17, 2016 And the wheels are very very distracting.............only with a B&W and Huge vignetting the subject will stand out among the rest increasing the light on it of course. Err, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 17, 2016 Share #6 Posted June 17, 2016 Well is a nice photo but in B&W will have more strength. The wheels has a lot of presence with his movement and are a little bit distracting moreover due to the low visibility of his face. A closer frame emphasizing the presence of the protagonist would have had more impact. Disagree. As an environmental portrait the spinning wheels add to the context. It does not need PS tricks like vignetting. B&W might be interesting, though. As for processing I might have chosen a warmer colour balance to emphasize being inside. @ the OP: I would prefer embedding the image to linking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iduna Posted June 17, 2016 Share #7 Posted June 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) first, thanks for posting a picture that is worth a discussion. The first question is what do you wnt to focus on? The man's face in in the centre.But the eye is first being distracted fomr the face by the bright unsharp foreground that is dominating a bifg part of the picture. The man's eyes are looking upward in spite opf the moving wheel. So what should the story be? - Yet I can imagine what you wanted to express. Therefore we don't need colour because it is not adding to the story here. I would try a B&W version and see if the focus could be more on the action, the blurr of the wheels would not be emphasised by the colour and the contrast would be turned into shades of grey and black. I would prefer a warmer toning, no cool temperatures here. The stone and its pattern in the backdrop would gain more importance. These are only a few thoughts about a nice idea and its realization. Thanks again for posting stuff to discuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAK Posted June 17, 2016 Share #8 Posted June 17, 2016 Hello fellow forum members! The first image I post here: https://flic.kr/p/Jck53W I welcome all constructive criticism. What do you think? In particular, I would like to hear your thoughts about the composition, the structure of the image, and the processing. Thank you! :-) post-43239-0-19191500-1466180894.jpg I looked at it in B&W. To me it looks better in color. The problem with it that I see is that the lines are all pulling our eye up and and out of the photo. The ladder frame is like an arrow pointing up. The rope too. Most of all, the man is looking up and out of the image. If the man was looking directly at us, or down, it would have a very different feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share #9 Posted June 17, 2016 first, thanks for posting a picture that is worth a discussion. The first question is what do you wnt to focus on? The man's face in in the centre.But the eye is first being distracted fomr the face by the bright unsharp foreground that is dominating a bifg part of the picture. The man's eyes are looking upward in spite opf the moving wheel. So what should the story be? - Yet I can imagine what you wanted to express. Therefore we don't need colour because it is not adding to the story here. I would try a B&W version and see if the focus could be more on the action, the blurr of the wheels would not be emphasised by the colour and the contrast would be turned into shades of grey and black. I would prefer a warmer toning, no cool temperatures here. The stone and its pattern in the backdrop would gain more importance. These are only a few thoughts about a nice idea and its realization. Thanks again for posting stuff to discuss. Thank you for your thoughts. There is no question that the focus of the image is the man. He stands out because of color, contrast, texture, while the other parts of the frame have more or less the same color palette and lower contrast. My feeling is that the rotating wheel in the top left should be quite big and prominent to counter balance the more contrasty bottom right part (which contains the subject). Otherwise this image would feel unbalanced. I don't quite get your reasoning for a B&W version. The cool tones in this image are deliberate; I wanted to give a feeling of technicality. A warm tone would be suggesting something more open or inviting which does not fit the idea I intended. I also certainly wouldn't like to make the stone pattern in the background more prominent as it is of very minor importance to the story. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share #10 Posted June 17, 2016 I looked at it in B&W. To me it looks better in color. The problem with it that I see is that the lines are all pulling our eye up and and out of the photo. The ladder frame is like an arrow pointing up. The rope too. Most of all, the man is looking up and out of the image. If the man was looking directly at us, or down, it would have a very different feel. Yes, you are right! That is why I wished I would have pressed the shutter about a half second earlier, when he looked the other way :-) Overall I still like it anyway (in a few weeks I probably won't anymore), but what you are pointing out is indeed (in my opinion) one of the weak points of this image. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOBETROTTER Posted June 17, 2016 Share #11 Posted June 17, 2016 Are you Bruno from Malaga ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share #12 Posted June 17, 2016 Are you Bruno from Malaga ? Who? (I actually Googled "Bruno from Malaga" to check if I am missing a joke or something, but I didn't find anything.) :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAK Posted June 17, 2016 Share #13 Posted June 17, 2016 Yes, you are right! That is why I wished I would have pressed the shutter about a half second earlier, when he looked the other way :-) Overall I still like it anyway (in a few weeks I probably won't anymore), but what you are pointing out is indeed (in my opinion) one of the weak points of this image. :-) I see it as a photo that speaks to the situation of Man. Surrounded by machines, looking for something more. Perhaps a rope from the gods to get out of this hole we're in? Quite a modern theme! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share #14 Posted June 17, 2016 I see it as a photo that speaks to the situation of Man. Surrounded by machines, looking for something more. Perhaps a rope from the gods to get out of this hole we're in? Quite a modern theme! Yes, possibly. Too bad for him the floor above wasn't really much different :-) But I like your interpretation, I hadn't looked at it this way myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOBETROTTER Posted June 17, 2016 Share #15 Posted June 17, 2016 Who? (I actually Googled "Bruno from Malaga" to check if I am missing a joke or something, but I didn't find anything.) :-) My mistake. Is a photographer that i know. forget it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted June 17, 2016 Share #16 Posted June 17, 2016 I like it as it stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2016 Share #17 Posted June 18, 2016 I may be biased as I posted a similar image a long time ago. I think the one by the OP is considerably better because of the human presence. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/261698-inside-the-windmill/?do=findComment&comment=3063705'>More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share #18 Posted June 18, 2016 I may be biased as I posted a similar image a long time ago. I think the one by the OP is considerably better because of the human presence. As the focus in this image is really on the movement, I think it could take up a bigger central part of the frame, as the bottom-left is a bit empty and does not counter balance the top-right. But I do like the sense of movement. When I was there I was astonished at the speed of these massive wooden constructions. Very impressive. Are you from the Benelux? Netherlands, I guess? :-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2016 Share #19 Posted June 18, 2016 Yes, you are possibly right. I tried to balance movement against a resting wheel. I think these situations are hard on composition as they are narrow and restricted conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share #20 Posted June 18, 2016 Yes, you are possibly right. I tried to balance movement against a resting wheel. I think these situations are hard on composition as they are narrow and restricted conditions. It's certainly not easy, that's for sure. The fact that we're all using prime lenses is an added challenge here I think. But that's also part of what makes it fun :-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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