djmay Posted June 12, 2016 Share #1 Posted June 12, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) The only swabs I could find for 30mm were made by Visible Dust. I ordered 12 swabs plus the Smear Away cleaner. Frustration number 1 - the swabs are not lint-free. After the first cleaning, a few of the round spots, which I suspect were not surface dust but adhering with a sticky substance (oil?), were removed. Not all, but a few. However, there were more pieces of what I think were lint, showing on the sensor. This was after blowing with a bulb blower. After a total of five cleanings with five swabs, most of the round spots are gone, however, each cleaning left behind lint. I have tried to blow it away, but it is not successful. This is reviewing a test shot with 30mm lens at f16. Am I being too picky, or is this to be expected? Jesse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hoppyman Posted June 12, 2016 Share #2 Posted June 12, 2016 Hi Jessie. You would be aware of course that the smaller the aperture the more visible any foreign speck on the sensor cover glass. I have been using the S2 and now S (Typ 007) for some time (about 21,000 exposures so far). I can tell you my experience cleaning those at least, hoping that it might be useful for you. Firstly, I think from the first time that you remove a lens you are going to see dust regularly and occasionally tiny hairs/fibres. I don't clean for every shoot, mainly just if I get something visible across the area of the image that is likely to be used. That is to say, a couple of specks at an edge would see me more likely to remove in Lightroom developing , then synch that across the rest of the frames. I have the same Vswabs which were the only ones in that size I could find as well. I haven't ever seen any trace of any lint material from them in my use. I just use one per clean, 3 drops on the edge then holding the handle tip, one pass in each direction (so you use each side of the edge once) then discard. Mostly that will remove any problem specks at least until the next time you remove the lens for a moment. I have only used Eclipse fluid (from Photosol) myself on M cameras and now the S cameras. Since it is in a 2fl oz or 60ml bottle I guess I will have enough for the next decades. As I recall the Smear Away fluid that you mentioned is intended for persistent oily contamination? You might find another fluid more suitable if oily smears aren't now an issue for you?When you use the fluid, its important to only use the right amount. Too much and you could have overflow or residual drying marks. I use a rocket blower firstly avoiding any contact and if I need to use a sensor brush before a wet clean, the most important step is to clean the brush first and then be careful not to touch any other part of the camera interior. I just wipe the brush fibres with a one-use Zeiss Lens wipe. In my experience (from M cameras) any contact with the camera interior apart from the sensor cover or any skin contact, can introduce oily smears when you are trying to brush away loose dust or particles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmay Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted June 13, 2016 Hi Jessie. You would be aware of course that the smaller the aperture the more visible any foreign speck on the sensor cover glass. I have been using the S2 and now S (Typ 007) for some time (about 21,000 exposures so far). I can tell you my experience cleaning those at least, hoping that it might be useful for you. Firstly, I think from the first time that you remove a lens you are going to see dust regularly and occasionally tiny hairs/fibres. I don't clean for every shoot, mainly just if I get something visible across the area of the image that is likely to be used. That is to say, a couple of specks at an edge would see me more likely to remove in Lightroom developing , then synch that across the rest of the frames. I have the same Vswabs which were the only ones in that size I could find as well. I haven't ever seen any trace of any lint material from them in my use. I just use one per clean, 3 drops on the edge then holding the handle tip, one pass in each direction (so you use each side of the edge once) then discard. Mostly that will remove any problem specks at least until the next time you remove the lens for a moment. I have only used Eclipse fluid (from Photosol) myself on M cameras and now the S cameras. Since it is in a 2fl oz or 60ml bottle I guess I will have enough for the next decades. As I recall the Smear Away fluid that you mentioned is intended for persistent oily contamination? You might find another fluid more suitable if oily smears aren't now an issue for you? When you use the fluid, its important to only use the right amount. Too much and you could have overflow or residual drying marks. I use a rocket blower firstly avoiding any contact and if I need to use a sensor brush before a wet clean, the most important step is to clean the brush first and then be careful not to touch any other part of the camera interior. I just wipe the brush fibres with a one-use Zeiss Lens wipe. In my experience (from M cameras) any contact with the camera interior apart from the sensor cover or any skin contact, can introduce oily smears when you are trying to brush away loose dust or particles. Thanks Geoff. I use a rocket blower also, no brush. I could not get Eclipse easily and I read that the Smear Away was similar to Eclipse. I think there were oil-related spots, so it may not have been a bad way to go. It is not often that I use f16, however when I need it the spots and "fuzz" will be there. I expect the surface dust contamination from time to time, and the rocket blower takes care of that. It is frustrating to have new "fuzz" after using the swab. Jesse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted June 14, 2016 Share #4 Posted June 14, 2016 I don't own an S, but from experience with my M cameras, I always use a few extra drops of Eclipse (5 instead of 3) to saturate the swap nicely. I find that the sensor dries quickly and with less smears and lint than when you use less fluid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted June 16, 2016 Share #5 Posted June 16, 2016 I use Eclipse as well. No issues.. Albert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted June 17, 2016 Share #6 Posted June 17, 2016 I've been using my wife's hair drier and it works a treat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted June 17, 2016 Share #7 Posted June 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've been using my wife's hair drier and it works a treatExcuse me, how do you use the hair dryer on your camera? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted June 21, 2016 Share #8 Posted June 21, 2016 Neil D must have ingested his Eclipse prior to penning his recent post !!! Albert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted June 21, 2016 Share #9 Posted June 21, 2016 Excuse me, how do you use the hair dryer on your camera? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk same as you do on your heed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 21, 2016 Share #10 Posted June 21, 2016 Beware with that hair drier- dandruff sticks to the sensor. That is why sensors from Wetzlar are always dirty - it is the dandruff from the Gnomes' beards. Much better to lick your sensor clean - after you've brushed your teeth properly of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted June 21, 2016 Share #11 Posted June 21, 2016 Beware with that hair drier- dandruff sticks to the sensor. That is why sensors from Wetzlar are always dirty - it is the dandruff from the Gnomes' beards. Much better to lick your sensor clean - after you've brushed your teeth properly of course. As long as you use it in conjunction with ear buds it works great...............new one not used Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted June 21, 2016 Share #12 Posted June 21, 2016 I've been using my wife's hair drier and it works a treat Does the hair dryer nozzle fit inside the mount? Real men use the end of a tie, dipped in alcohol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted June 21, 2016 Share #13 Posted June 21, 2016 Does the hair dryer nozzle fit inside the mount? Real men use the end of a tie, dipped in alcohol. Seeing as its MF yes it fits.....................if it was one of those inferior M range cameras no it would not............opps I was going to try the Tie trick but I drank it instead.......the whisky that is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted June 21, 2016 Share #14 Posted June 21, 2016 single malt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted June 21, 2016 Share #15 Posted June 21, 2016 Of coursed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmay Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share #16 Posted June 22, 2016 I have my Talisker Storm right here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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