luigi bertolotti Posted July 22, 2016 Share #321 Posted July 22, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) The next M will have 24 mp, unusable ISO 50,000, and will feature an auxiliary EVF with 4 mp. Whatever you're smoking guys, I would advise you to quit Good advice, I join though will continue to enjoy my pipe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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harmen Posted July 27, 2016 Share #322 Posted July 27, 2016 The d-lux (109) sensor plays a trick somewhat like the square sensor mentioned above: it's larger than is needed for a 2:3 image and can take other ratios using an optimized area within the full image circle. Images can be 4112 x 3088, 4272 x 2856, 4480 x 2520, and 3088 x 3088. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Zanni Posted July 27, 2016 Share #323 Posted July 27, 2016 As the trend is to move from 36 mp to 50 mp, the next M should have at least 36 mp , assuming that by that time the S will have 50 mp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted July 27, 2016 Share #324 Posted July 27, 2016 As the trend is to move from 36 mp to 50 mp, the next M should have at least 36 mp , assuming that by that time the S will have 50 mp. The difference between the two will almost certainly be linked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted July 27, 2016 Share #325 Posted July 27, 2016 As for the question of professional or amateur camera, I have always maintained that if there is a distinction -which is debatable-, the M is aimed at the high-end amateur market, not at the professional one, despite being as good as it gets for some professional applications. Putting it into the hands of high-profile "users", including well-known photographers is just a marketing exercise. With all due respect to this statement, ALL current cameras can be used professionally. The distinction is not about the camera but about what one does with it. And for that matter ALL camera manufacturers use the 'professional' market to increase the profile/kudos of their products. More 'pro' model camera are owned by amateurs than professionals - otherwise their market would be too small and unsustainable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 27, 2016 Share #326 Posted July 27, 2016 Yes Paul, isn't that what I am saying? I noticed in a video in the war photographers thread that quite a few were using smartphones. Not that they were behaving professionally otherwise. Now this is a professional camera: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/260659-how-many-megapixels-in-the-next-m/?do=findComment&comment=3086235'>More sharing options...
pico Posted July 27, 2016 Share #327 Posted July 27, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) A round sensor in a hexagonal chip wouldn't waste much silicon Chips have square sides. A hex would waste the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted July 27, 2016 Share #328 Posted July 27, 2016 Square chips have square sides. Chips of other shapes are different. I'm not saying the change to circular sensors will be trivial; but it would be a worthy task for the next Barnak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted July 27, 2016 Share #329 Posted July 27, 2016 Square chips have square sides. Chips of other shapes are different. As long as sensor pixels are organised in rows and columns, the natural shape of the sensor will continue to be rectangular. Fuji once employed SuperCCDs with a honeycomb pattern of pixels, but still there were rows and columns of pixels and thus a rectangular sensor shape. I'm not saying the change to circular sensors will be trivial; but it would be a worthy task for the next Barnak. The original Barnack repurposed existing film stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted July 28, 2016 Share #330 Posted July 28, 2016 My pixels are hexagonal, hence no wasted silicon (besides, the cost of the sensor includes any unused area; it ain't cheap). The output is rows of varying length, instead of rows of equal length. Given the total number of pixels, the length of each row can be calculated when formatting the image for a rectangular computer screen. If repurposing is a key criterion to make it a Barnack then consider it as repurposing the circular output of the lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted July 28, 2016 Share #331 Posted July 28, 2016 If repurposing is a key criterion to make it a Barnack then consider it as repurposing the circular output of the lens. Obviously the solution is for lens designers to come up with lens designs which produce an oblong or square, as opposed to round, image 'circle'. Answers are usually simple enough if you think laterally. The alternative is to produce all focal lengths as 'fisheye' lenses thus utilising the entire image within the image circle and then use software to produce whatever de-distorted crop is required - a bit like dealing with distortions in existing lenses but rather more so....... ( ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted July 28, 2016 Share #332 Posted July 28, 2016 That may be a solution but I can't imagine what the problem is. My solution is to solve the problem of camera orientation and free up the available rectangles. Discarding light from the lens' circle just because cine film was rectangular is barbaric. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted July 28, 2016 Share #333 Posted July 28, 2016 Even when only a rectangular crop of the image circle gets actually used, that doesn’t mean you could reduce all lenses to a rectangular shape without affecting lens speed and, probably even more importantly, the bokeh. Only a couple of lenses at the rear end of the lens assembly could be rectangular. On the one hand this would reduce flare, but then these lenses could not rotate, probly creating some mechanical issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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