Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 7, 2016 Share #421 Posted April 7, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is what it would print at for A2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/258574-leica-film-odyssey-for-a-beginner/?do=findComment&comment=3022100'>More sharing options...
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Doc Henry Posted April 7, 2016 Share #422 Posted April 7, 2016 You mean that system for scanning your negative ? 5732 x 3809 it's good for print , we can always try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 7, 2016 Share #423 Posted April 7, 2016 You mean that system for scanning your negative ? Yes except the lightbox will be flat on the floor and the camera directly over the top of the lightbox the negatives will be sandwiched between two thin shits of glass sitting on top of the light box..............I was going to do that tonight but nearly gave myself a hernia in the process so will wait until I have everything in place (Mainly negatives) before I try again :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted April 7, 2016 Share #424 Posted April 7, 2016 ... the negatives will be sandwiched between two thin shits of glass sitting on top of the light box.............. Be careful not to cut yourself. You don't want a Newton's Ring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 7, 2016 Share #425 Posted April 7, 2016 Be careful not to cut yourself. You don't want a Newton's Ring. Ive thought about that and have changed my mind. I will get a window glazier to give me two sheets of thin toughen glass with the edges rounded off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted April 7, 2016 Share #426 Posted April 7, 2016 Should pass much easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2016 Share #427 Posted April 7, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) You mean that system for scanning your negative ? Yes except the lightbox will be flat on the floor and the camera directly over the top of the lightbox the negatives will be sandwiched between two thin shits of glass sitting on top of the light box..............I was going to do that tonight but nearly gave myself a hernia in the process so will wait until I have everything in place (Mainly negatives) before I try again :) Neil - I have no experience with copying negatives with a digital camera but have started looking into this because there simply is no good scanning solution. It would seem to me that the main issue will be how you can keep the plane of the camera sensor absolutely parallel to the plane of the negative frame. You may possibly need to use a copying stand to be able to do that. I'll be interested in seeng what you conclude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 7, 2016 Share #428 Posted April 7, 2016 Some useful links and to get ideas http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/BEOON http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/230886-m8-and-beoon/ need extension tubes Which lens on your S ? H. and also this http://www.dpbestflow.org/camera/camera-scanning#basics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 7, 2016 Share #429 Posted April 7, 2016 Thanks for the links Henry I have a leveling cube that fits in the flash shoe so I am thinking I can get the camera in the ball park especially using the RRS ball head that is very precise. Hay at the end of the day I'm going to give it a try without going out and spending a fortune on something that I don't even know if it's going to work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotoklaus Posted April 7, 2016 Share #430 Posted April 7, 2016 A mask that covers the negative would be helpful. Leica BEOON comes in to my mind... http://photos.ca-bln.com/post/85718532114/scanning-film-with-a-digital-leica-m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 7, 2016 Share #431 Posted April 7, 2016 The loblem with the beoon is it won't hold a Leica S Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2016 Share #432 Posted April 7, 2016 Here is an article on digitalizing negatives using a camera versus scanning. It's undated but seems to have been written in 2014 or later: https://luminous-landscape.com/articleImages/CameraScanning.pdf One of the authors has also written an interesting review of the Epson V850 scanner that compares it to several well known film scanners. Looks like there are a good number of issues that need to be dealt with, including how to invert B&W negatives to positives, how to deal with color negative film and how to deal with vibration. Another issue that I saw in an article on the BEOON is dust landing on the negative. Looks like digitalizing with a camera has a lot of issues that need to be dealt with that I had not realized, and is therefore more complicated than I thought. I'll be interested in seeing your experience will be on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 7, 2016 Share #433 Posted April 7, 2016 I think you need to check your posts after the spellchecker has got hold of them!I find it rather unkind to attribute this post to a spellchecker error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted April 7, 2016 Share #434 Posted April 7, 2016 I started another thread in the S section then realised that I screwed up and should have just added here. I'm heading back to the rig on Tuesday so no time to get all my shit together to try this, but while I am on the rig I will order the items below to arrive in KL for when I get home after a short 2 week hitch. Light Box http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/826085-REG/Porta_Trace_Gagne_1118LP_BLK_LED_Light_Panel.html A couple of sheets of picture frame glass (same size as the light box) I did a little primitive test rig up using my Leica S and a starbucks coffee mug (The logo on the coffee mug is the same hight as a negative and a little narrower) IMG_1871.jpg Then I sat my Leica S on a desk Tripod and got as close as I could to the coffee mug where I could still focus. I then took this picture (Un-cropped) to see how much I could fill the frame.....see below NDW06785.jpg i then cropped the DNG file to the approximate size of a negative and I ended up with a file size of 5732 x 3809 see below Screen Shot 2016-04-07 at 19.16.06.png I know its privative but it should work...........what do you think?? It'll work, Neil. You need to put a bit of work into getting the negative flat (hence the glass), and the lens truly perpendicular to the negative. I would suggest stopping down the aperture on native ISO and compensating with the shutter speed. As discussed, if you can get closer with extension rings, you may get even better results. B&W inversion is very easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 7, 2016 Share #435 Posted April 7, 2016 It'll work, Neil. You need to put a bit of work into getting the negative flat (hence the glass), and the lens truly perpendicular to the negative. I would suggest stopping down the aperture on native ISO and compensating with the shutter speed. As discussed, if you can get closer with extension rings, you may get even better results. B&W inversion is very easy. Yea I haven't yet given up on the extension rings thing........I will make some more inquiries. It was good catching up yesterday for a coffee and a BS..........it sure is a small world :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted April 8, 2016 Share #436 Posted April 8, 2016 I'll give another plug for the BEOON, and yes I agree it won't work with your S, but in my case a cheap Fuji X-E1. I also used it with my Leica T. Or a Sony full frame A7 or whatever, as the whole system is designed with the M series in mind, and full frame. A BEOON (they vary greatly in price though), and an A7 will cost way less than any S item, and can be left set up, full time for dedicated copying. I use mine over a flat LED panel, like your lightbox. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 8, 2016 Share #437 Posted April 8, 2016 I'll give another plug for the BEOON, and yes I agree it won't work with your S, but in my case a cheap Fuji X-E1. I also used it with my Leica T. Or a Sony full frame A7 or whatever, as the whole system is designed with the M series in mind, and full frame. A BEOON (they vary greatly in price though), and an A7 will cost way less than any S item, and can be left set up, full time for dedicated copying. I use mine over a flat LED panel, like your lightbox. Gary GaryWould my M6 fit on the Beoon[emoji3][emoji3][emoji3][emoji3] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted April 8, 2016 Share #438 Posted April 8, 2016 Should do Neil, I mean that's what the BEOON was designed for. But practically it is akin to self-abuse I reckon, this is what digital would excel at. I mean, you're talking about digitzing your negs aren't you? But if you want to use the M6 for copying something oike a print, then possibly, although again, digital would make this simpler and faster. If you still have an M digital though, you're laughing. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted April 8, 2016 Share #439 Posted April 8, 2016 Neil - why use that unconventional method?? Just buy a Hassy X1 and be done with it. You deserve the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 8, 2016 Share #440 Posted April 8, 2016 Should do Neil, I mean that's what the BEOON was designed for. But practically it is akin to self-abuse I reckon, this is what digital would excel at. I mean, you're talking about digitzing your negs aren't you? But if you want to use the M6 for copying something oike a print, then possibly, although again, digital would make this simpler and faster. If you still have an M digital though, you're laughing. Gary its okay Gary I was being a nob. I am going to use my Leica S with a tripod. I have a bubble block that sits in the hot shoe for leveling. I've no intention of buying a Sony A7 I want to use my S. Now then if I can find a way to get an extension ring that will be great too but at the end of the day if I'm going to spend 2 grand on something it will be a scanner not a cheap Japanese A7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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