wlaidlaw Posted July 31, 2016 Share #441 Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Nice series ! Thank you ! How about some small, fast flying birds ... :) ;-) ?? Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk Not a bird but certainly fast flying. A Canadair fire bomber flying boat above my house at an estimated 150kts, with 90-280. Unfortunately the small post size here prevents you seeing just how sharp the combination of the 90-280 and SL really are. When you blow the photo up, you can easily read the small print on the tail (says Canadair - CL415) Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 31, 2016 by wlaidlaw 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257858-90-28028-4/?do=findComment&comment=3088295'>More sharing options...
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Dolphin Posted July 31, 2016 Share #442 Posted July 31, 2016 Not a bird but certainly fast flying. A Canadair fire bomber flying boat above my house at an estimated 150kts, with 90-280. Unfortunately the small post size here prevents you seeing just how sharp the combination of the 90-280 and SL really are. When you blow the photo up, you can easily read the small print on the tail (says Canadair - CL415) Wilson Thanks for the big bird foto ! I am just asking myself whether the SL / 90-280 combo will be fast (accurate) enough for small, fast flight models. Maybe I will need to rent a 90-280 and have to find out be myself ... Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted July 31, 2016 Share #443 Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) Nice series ! Thank you ! How about some small, fast flying birds ... :) ;-) ?? Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk this is all I have with the 90-280 .... (all my other robins where with the 280/2.8 R) ...... they stopped momentarily and inconsistently on this post before flying to the nest .... catching a shot was very difficult Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 31, 2016 by thighslapper 17 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257858-90-28028-4/?do=findComment&comment=3088334'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted July 31, 2016 Share #444 Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) and these haven't learnt to fly yet ..... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I also took a selection of these paddling about ...... and they move very quickly and a rather randomly ..... tracking worked very well and all the mobile shots were in focus ..... even when they momentarily went behind reeds .... the only issue being not having a fast enough shutter speed for some. Edited July 31, 2016 by thighslapper 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I also took a selection of these paddling about ...... and they move very quickly and a rather randomly ..... tracking worked very well and all the mobile shots were in focus ..... even when they momentarily went behind reeds .... the only issue being not having a fast enough shutter speed for some. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257858-90-28028-4/?do=findComment&comment=3088337'>More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted July 31, 2016 Share #445 Posted July 31, 2016 this is all I have with the 90-280 .... (all my other robins where with the 280/2.8 R) ...... they stopped momentarily and inconsistently on this post before flying to the nest .... catching a shot was very difficult L1304179.jpg Were you using AF? Prefocused or single point AFS? Your subject must be less than 5m away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted August 1, 2016 Share #446 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Were you using AF? Prefocused or single point AFS? Your subject must be less than 5m away? AFs - 3m... spot on where I estimated the head to be. Sat for ages with a remote release ..... the main issue was ME not being quick enough ..... Edited August 1, 2016 by thighslapper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted August 4, 2016 Share #447 Posted August 4, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) It was not visible when I viewed the pics even after LR in my smaller screen Mac Book Air, therefore I could not answer your question. I had seen banding appearing in images captured by my M240 @ ISC 3200 in low light having clearly visible banding across 1/5 of the image in the past. Comparing them, the banding I see on my SL's ISO 12500 image is mild. Are you on fw 2.0? I had banding on 1.x but it's essentially completely resolved with 2.x. Mind you I don't think I've ever taken a photo at ISO 12500. (that's not a criticism. just a personal observation). Gordon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted August 4, 2016 Share #448 Posted August 4, 2016 Are you on fw 2.0? I had banding on 1.x but it's essentially completely resolved with 2.x. Mind you I don't think I've ever taken a photo at ISO 12500. (that's not a criticism. just a personal observation). Gordon When the photo was taken, my SL was on FW2.0. I'm not really a bird shooter but rather I was testing my SL pushing ISO and AF to the limit so that I know the limitations when I start enjoy shooting the camera after I get familiar with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted August 6, 2016 Share #449 Posted August 6, 2016 I find a 300mm lens' DOF at f/2.8 to be too skinny to be useful so one stop faster means bigger, heavier and costlier. No advantage for me. I am not interested in AF, so for me the amazing AF invites Mr. Murphy's law. The Sony's sensor stabilization doesn't add any air/glass surfaces, and doesn't de-center any glass when working. No need to discuss resolution or chromatic aberration, the 280/4 is exemplary. I don't see any advantage for the Canon. I have the EF 300 f/2.8 MkII, and use it on a 1DX for sports photography. Shooting indoor velodromes, it never gets off 2.8, and I'm generally running at ISO 3200 at relatively well-lit tracks. The AF combo of the 1DX with this lens is phenomenal. I have not seen any CA present in many thousands of shots with this lens. The lens easily out-resolves the 36MP A7R that I sometimes use it on, too. I can't compare it with the 280/4, except that f/4 would be a no-go maximum aperture for what I do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted August 6, 2016 Share #450 Posted August 6, 2016 I find a 300mm lens' DOF at f/2.8 to be too skinny to be useful so one stop faster means bigger, heavier and costlier. No advantage for me. I am not interested in AF, so for me the amazing AF invites Mr. Murphy's law. The Sony's sensor stabilization doesn't add any air/glass surfaces, and doesn't de-center any glass when working. No need to discuss resolution or chromatic aberration, the 280/4 is exemplary. I don't see any advantage for the Canon. I have the EF 300 f/2.8 MkII, and use it on a 1DX for sports photography. Shooting indoor velodromes, it never gets off 2.8, and I'm generally running at ISO 3200 at relatively well-lit tracks. The AF combo of the 1DX with this lens is phenomenal. I have not seen any CA present in many thousands of shots with this lens. The lens easily out-resolves the 36MP A7R that I sometimes use it on, too. I have used it on my M246 with EVF, which can also make for some nice shots. I can't compare it with the 280/4, except that f/4 would be a no-go maximum aperture for what I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phongph Posted August 12, 2016 Share #451 Posted August 12, 2016 Nice series ! Thank you ! How about some small, fast flying birds ... :) ;-) ?? Gesendet von meinem iPad mit Tapatalk Hi "Thighslapper"! Very nice photos. I may get SL Apo 90-280 ASPH (just concern its weight and size) to combo with my Leica SL and SL 24-90 ASPH. Have a nice day! Thanks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted August 18, 2016 Share #452 Posted August 18, 2016 http://www.43rumors.com/panasonic-patent-proves-designed-leica-sl-90-280mm-full-frame-lens/ Panasonic patent make some believe Panasonic designed the Leica SL 90-280mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 18, 2016 Share #453 Posted August 18, 2016 You would have thought they might get the focal length correct on the patent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted August 18, 2016 Share #454 Posted August 18, 2016 I cannot clearly see if the 270 is from the original patent or just a typo of the website designer. Can you ? Anyway, designing a lens and producing it are two different shoes. Why should it not be designed by Panasonic ? I think they have a rich experience in "wide-range" zooms (for film/video cameras). Maybe it was designed by Leica, but Panasonic owns a stake in Leica and the right to file the patent ? (just speculating, I don't know) Is this a wordwide patent, or just for Japan ? But probably Panasonic could not produce (and sell) such an expensive lens - with Leica many buyers are more price-tolerant. With a japanese producer I am usually off the bandwagon if the lens takes a long time to get delivered and has an extraordinary high price tag. The price (and quality) probably also depends on the types of glass used. Is this also visible in the patent ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted August 18, 2016 Share #455 Posted August 18, 2016 Surely Leica's 90-280mm lens'patent would have been registered c.2 to 3 years ago. The Panasonic 90-270mm might be a totally new lens and for use with their rumoured FF organic sensor. The 90-270mm specification does not necessarily mean that it's the existing Leica 90-280mm. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted August 18, 2016 Share #456 Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Somebody listed this link from Japan: http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2016-08-17 This looks again like a 90-280 - or is it edited ? Edited August 18, 2016 by steppenw0lf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlatkob Posted August 18, 2016 Share #457 Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) That is quite strange. Why would Panasonic patent a 90-280 full frame lens when they don't make any full frame lenses or full frame cameras? And it has 23 elements, the same number as the Leica 90-280 lens. Edited August 18, 2016 by zlatkob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 18, 2016 Share #458 Posted August 18, 2016 I hope Panasonic is going to use the SL/T mount for their FF mirrorless. Could be a great source of reasonably priced lenses for the SL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted August 18, 2016 Share #459 Posted August 18, 2016 It certainly looks to be the same as the Leica, to my untrained eye. I would have though that if it is the same lens that a patent would have been registered before it was produced, if indeed Panasonic make the 90-280. I'm sure Leica said the SL system was not a collaboration with Panasonic but maybe the lenses are (as rramen said in another thread). If that's the case are Panasonic considering their own body that will use the L lens mount? No that'd be interesting. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 18, 2016 Share #460 Posted August 18, 2016 That is quite strange. Why would Panasonic patent a 90-280 full frame lens when they don't make any full frame lenses or full frame cameras? And it has 23 elements, the same number as the Leica 90-280 lens. It's identical to the 90-280 construction shown on Leica's website. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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