MarkP Posted February 9, 2016 Share #21 Posted February 9, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Neil, I too remember you telling me that the weight of the S was insignificant for you being the big strong guy that you are . Get an M, 28 Summicron, 50 APO-Summicron, and a 90 APO-Summicron (or Macro-Elmar) and enjoy them... Don't get a Noctiux. You will yet again be compromising the light weight and portability of the M system, exactly what has put you off the S and led you back to the M. Regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 Hi MarkP, Take a look here I miss my M. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted February 9, 2016 Share #22 Posted February 9, 2016 Neil D, on 09 Feb 2016 - 11:30, said: Jaapv I had a fantastic time on Safari pictures here But you are right that was a Jeep Safari and very easy to manage gear when its just you and the driver. I actually was looking at a walking safari in Botswana and thought about what you just mentioned there................. so decided to not think about that anymore. As far as having a fantastic walk around camera the M filled all my dreams, until I then started to struggle with my eyesight "that might have actually been just a need to get the body and lenses calibrated as Jeff S mentioned to me many many times. But anyway until Leica come out with a new M I will stick with what I already have, but will defiantly bet getting another M and maybe the 50 APO.................. Question how does the 50 APO compare to the 50mm Noctilux when it comes to focusing????? Well, I could give you one or two decades and I have no problem with the rangefinder whatever. Jeff was right, have the system calibrated in such cases. Anyway, if you go on safari for photography, walking is not a beginner's game. It is much harder to get close and one does need some bush skills - and a top-notch guide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted February 9, 2016 Share #23 Posted February 9, 2016 Neil, I too remember you telling me that the weight of the S was insignificant for you being the big strong guy that you are . Regards, Mark Yep I remember saying that Mark..................and for what I used the M for before the S does not replace that..........I was wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted February 9, 2016 Share #24 Posted February 9, 2016 Neil, I have followed your posts for some time; so I am not very surprised to read this one. Perhaps a restless spirit lurks within? So have I. I suspect there are few of us who have not followed Neil's exact thought processes ourselves, if we would only admit it. The difference is that Neil has had the wherewithall to do something about it. And having sat on a drilling rig myself (in the desert, not at sea) I also know how the GAS pressure builds up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 9, 2016 Share #25 Posted February 9, 2016 A tiny point but it might help since I know some customers are very pernickety: on both your home page and the sales page you spell "predators" incorrectly, differently each time. Some people don't care (they shouldn't: it's about the photos) but I know from experience that for some people this type of thing affects their perception of the value of the object, daft as it may seem. Really nice wildlife photos though, although maybe I need to see them printed very large to appreciate how they might differ from a similar ones taken on a smaller format camera with a long lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted February 9, 2016 Share #26 Posted February 9, 2016 A slightly shorter cannon. More of a howitzer.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted February 9, 2016 Share #27 Posted February 9, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Peter.........when you say tiny, is it really that noticeable ?? Yes, Neil, it is really noticeable. Just do a search for the spec of both lenses. The 50 APO is also tiny compared to the 50 Lux. I have tried all three; Nocti, Lux, and Cron. If you were walking around all day with the Nocti you would wonder why on earth you paid all that money for such a huge lump. Not so bad with the Lux. APO 50 Cron is by far the smallest and lightest ... stunning resolution too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted February 9, 2016 Share #28 Posted February 9, 2016 In my experience of buying and selling gear (of which I have done far too much), dissatisfaction with the gear is usually a proxy for dissatisfaction with the photographs or stems from an underlying sense that the point of the photography was becoming the gear rather than the photographs. I found myself photographing a lot of stuff simply because it was out there and that (with the right gear) I was able to do so. Only once I'd asked myself why I might actually want to photograph something have I realised that for me photography (the doing of it rather than the consuming of it) is something that is more enjoyable when it follows rather than leads the other wider interests I have in art, literature, music and the world around me. I still find the gear side of photography (especially in the narrow sphere of rangefinders and the Leica brand, etc) quite interesting but, because I already know that I don't need hardly any of it, my interest is now largely as an observer and I no longer feel any great desire to buy it. In other words, if you actually identify what it is you want to do photographically – and buy and own only that which you need to accomplish those goals (rather than buy the shiny new gear and then look to find things to photograph with it) – it is surprising how little gear you actually really need and how quickly you lose the desire to keep buying newer versions of the same kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2016 Share #29 Posted February 9, 2016 A slightly shorter cannon. a mortar.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted February 9, 2016 Share #30 Posted February 9, 2016 A tiny point but it might help since I know some customers are very pernickety: on both your home page and the sales page you spell "predators" incorrectly, differently each time. Some people don't care (they shouldn't: it's about the photos) but I know from experience that for some people this type of thing affects their perception of the value of the object, daft as it may seem. Really nice wildlife photos though, although maybe I need to see them printed very large to appreciate how they might differ from a similar ones taken on a smaller format camera with a long lens. Cheers Peter......spelling corrections corrected As youve noticed spelling isn't my fortay At 36MP and shot with a long lens yes most of them will be able to print at 36 x 24 and bigger...............The maximum I can print at home is A2, but I am really looking forward to getting home and printing some of these pictures. Since I have gotten into printing about 6 months ago, I can't belive how much I enjoy looking at my pictures on print rather than looking at them on a computer screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 9, 2016 Share #31 Posted February 9, 2016 like I said I will wait and see what Leica come out with at Photokindoff and if they do come out with a New M then I will wait and get one of those (especially if it comes with a built in Diopter) Do you wear glasses? I much prefer wearing them than having a diopter, which in my case, would require taking my glasses on and off for distance viewing (and for sun protection in daylight). I'm fortunate that the correction (including for astigmatism) allows me to both see the focus patch (set at a virtual distance of 2m) as well as distant objects. In any case, a diopter or magnifier is not a perfect substitute for making sure your eyes are corrected FIRST. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted February 9, 2016 Share #32 Posted February 9, 2016 Do you wear glasses? I much prefer wearing them than having a diopter, which in my case, would require taking my glasses on and off for distance viewing (and for sun protection in daylight). I'm fortunate that the correction (including for astigmatism) allows me to both see the focus patch (set at a virtual distance of 2m) as well as distant objects. In any case, a diopter or magnifier is not a perfect substitute for making sure your eyes are corrected FIRST. Jeff Yes I wear glasses for reading and computer work. I had two pairs of progressive glasses made especially for photography with the most expensive Zeiss lenses to give the optimal viewing with the least distortion. The problem was that I struggled to see the focus patch when wearing the glasses and when I didn't wear my glasses I could see it better but then ended up playing the glasses on glasses off game.........I tried all the diopters Leica and 3rd party and I found all of them dimmed down the bright lines. The more I think about it the more I think it was a calibration thing because without glasses was my best view of the focus patch but still struggled to nail focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted February 9, 2016 Share #33 Posted February 9, 2016 I'm fortunate that the correction (including for astigmatism) allows me to both see the focus patch (set at a virtual distance of 2m) as well as distant objects. Jeff Not sure what you mean by that statement Jeff.........can you give it to me in Roughneck terms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2016 Share #34 Posted February 9, 2016 The search for the holy grail continues.......... And in the meantime those nice people at Leica just smile,rub their hands and keep looking at all the nice black numbers on the balance sheet? BrianP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 9, 2016 Share #35 Posted February 9, 2016 If you are going to get into Leica M again I would advise you to get a Walterrx eyepiece for the camera. From the way you describe it if you still struggle with the patch even with progressive glasses there is a good chance that there is astigmatism involved. Even if not, Walter makes the eyepiece exactly to your prescription, as opposed to the Leica diopters that only come in steps of 0.5 and a limited range. http://walterrxeyepiece.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 9, 2016 Share #36 Posted February 9, 2016 Simply that my eyes suffer from astigmatism as well as some nearsightedness. The prescription I use corrects for both and, luckily, results in my being able to see distant subjects as well as being able to clearly see the focus patch, which as I wrote is set at a virtual distance of 2m. I also have glasses that I use when sitting in front of my computer or seeing exhibits at a museum....these are optimized for viewing at about a meter (or less), still with correction for astigmatism, but these don't allow me to see as well at a distance. If you could see the focus patch clearly, and lined everything up appropriately (with your sight line correctly aimed at the patch....again a possible flaw), and your pics were still out of focus (not due to camera shake or movement, or shooting at less than minimum lens distance), then something was off...your camera RF, your lens, or both (each could have been at the opposite edge of tolerances). Live view enables you to see EXACTLY what the sensor sees.....that's why having it on your M allows for careful tripod testing comparing LV to the the RF....and the sensor is 'right'. If the two aren't in synch, one needs to do a bit more detective work to determine if it's the lens or camera, or both. At that point, Leica can easily get it sorted (some here do self service...not I). Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted February 9, 2016 Share #37 Posted February 9, 2016 Let me google astigmatism and try and understand what that stuff is........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 9, 2016 Share #38 Posted February 9, 2016 No real need....let your optician or ophthalmologist tell you if you have it. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted February 9, 2016 Share #39 Posted February 9, 2016 No real need....let your optician or ophthalmologist tell you if you have it. Jeff With the amount of glasses that I have and the amount of times that I have been to the optician I think they would have told me if I have that stuff. I may pop over to my mates Leica store when I get home and borrow a Leica M and take that with me to the optician and show her what I am struggling to see and see if she can help me out seeing that dam focus patch............Im using the something prism screen in my Leica S and can see the lines line easy as hell...........strange Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted February 9, 2016 Share #40 Posted February 9, 2016 If you don't see the focus patch, your fingers are likely to be in front of the focus window on the right hand side of the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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