G. van Asch Posted January 13, 2016 Share #1 Posted January 13, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am looking at beautiful pictures with R lenses on the SL. The leica adapter will take till the end of the year to be available. Is the Novoflex adapter just one single adapter you put on the SL and your ready to shoot. I understood on the You Tube SL test done by BigheadTaco that Leica will come with an improved system that makes it easy. Sorry for this question but I am looking for using R lenses and waiting so long is a little difficult. Gerjan van Asch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ferdinand Posted January 13, 2016 Share #2 Posted January 13, 2016 Is the Novoflex adapter just one single adapter you put on the SL and your ready to shoot. Gerjan van Asch Yes, but you cannot choose the R-Lens in the selection menu of the SL. The selection of R Lenses is a demand for firmware update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 13, 2016 Share #3 Posted January 13, 2016 Have you tried combining the R-M and M-T adapters? They work well as essentially dumb adapters. I agree it would be nice to have a R-SL adapter, but there's no need to wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 13, 2016 Share #4 Posted January 13, 2016 When available, one adapter will be good. Novoflex adapts with one adapter but no R lens codes that way. R Adapter M stacked onto M Adapter T works well and allows use of lens codes, as well as M lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted January 13, 2016 Share #5 Posted January 13, 2016 R Adapter M stacked onto M Adapter T works well and allows use of lens codes, as well as M lenses. By far the best solution until the end of 2016. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 13, 2016 Share #6 Posted January 13, 2016 R Adapter M stacked onto M Adapter T works well and allows use of lens codes, as well as M lenses. This works very well. I have been shooting R lenses since day one and they look amazing on the SL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted January 13, 2016 Share #7 Posted January 13, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Which are the great R lenses? Looking at the MTFs suggests that the lenses are, in general, not up to the latest standards, although the may be better than M lenses of the same vintage. Adapters usually degrade image quality, although it may be hard to tell. A pair of the, stacked, sounds precarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 13, 2016 Share #8 Posted January 13, 2016 Which are the great R lenses? Looking at the MTFs suggests that the lenses are, in general, not up to the latest standards, although the may be better than M lenses of the same vintage. Adapters usually degrade image quality, although it may be hard to tell. A pair of the, stacked, sounds precarious. They are nothing more than an extension tube, how could it possibly degrade optics? Regarding the R lenses, yes they are 20+ year old designs, so don't expect them to compete with a modern lens. But for what they are they look amazing. I currently have the following: 60mm Macro + 1:1 Adapter 100mm Macro + 1:1 Adapter 70-180 f2.8 35-70 f4 But have owned many others including all the Summilux's, 35-70 f2.8 and the 19mm f2.8 and have used them on the M240 with similar results. Regarding your concern of stacking...its hardly noticeable...the T adapter is rather small. Here is the 70-180 f2.8 on the SL: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/255563-novoflex-adapter-for-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2968241'>More sharing options...
jrp Posted January 13, 2016 Share #9 Posted January 13, 2016 They are nothing more than an extension tube, how could it possibly degrade optics? Thanks, I think that it is just a matter if alignment. See http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/09/there-is-no-free-lunch-episode-763-lens-adapters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 14, 2016 Share #10 Posted January 14, 2016 Thanks, I think that it is just a matter if alignment. See http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/09/there-is-no-free-lunch-episode-763-lens-adapters It was only a matter of time before someone brought up Roger's article, I guess. I think I trust Leica to know how to manufacture extension tubes (and mount adapters) such that they are sturdy enough to do the job properly, and such that their front and rear flanges are parallel. Having used plenty of third party mount adapters, I've not found a single one that is as sturdy and as well-machined as the M Adapter T or R Adapter M are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 14, 2016 Share #11 Posted January 14, 2016 Which are the great R lenses? Looking at the MTFs suggests that the lenses are, in general, not up to the latest standards, although the may be better than M lenses of the same vintage. ... I never look at MTF curves. I look at what lenses produce in photographs. There are darn few R lenses that are not "great"! My R lens kit includes lenses made from 1964 to about 1989. They are all excellent performers, even the supposedly crappy ones, although they might not sing on resolution charts or MTF curves. There is more to photographic imaging than resolution and contrast... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 14, 2016 Share #12 Posted January 14, 2016 Thanks, I think that it is just a matter if alignment. See http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/09/there-is-no-free-lunch-episode-763-lens-adapters You get what you pay for. If you want to go with a cheap adapter, expect issues. I use the Leica Adapters and don't have any issues. The T-M + M-R are solid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted January 14, 2016 Share #13 Posted January 14, 2016 I have a little play at my RM/MT interface. I don't know if it creates problems but it is a little worrisome.. Waiting for the RL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted January 14, 2016 Share #14 Posted January 14, 2016 I see sharp edges in my tests of various wide angle R and M lenses on my SL, so I'm not worried about misalignment on my adapters. I use both the Leica R to M and a Novoflex R to M with milled spots and the R adapter code painted. But be aware that adapters, to be on the safe side, are generally just a little thinner than the register difference, so infinity moves to 15 feet on the scale with my 15 mm lens. The difference is perhaps a tenth of a millimeter (it would not be good if the error was in the other direction). Checking focus with magnification at infinity takes care of this. And very long lenses typically don't have a precise infinity stop anyway. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted January 14, 2016 Share #15 Posted January 14, 2016 I have a little play at my RM/MT interface. I don't know if it creates problems but it is a little worrisome.. Waiting for the RL. A little rotational clearance is inevitable so that the flanges can be fitted together easily, but there's no slop that allows the lens to tilt with respect to the mount or slide off axis on mine. I see tha same 'slightly thin' stack that Scott does as well, completely inconsequential unless I'm scale focusing with the shortest focal lengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted January 29, 2016 Share #16 Posted January 29, 2016 I have the Novoflex LET/LER adapter, and it works fine with the APO-Elmarit-R 180/2.8. You get no lens information in the EXIF data and no lens corrections, but that doesn't seem to be an issue while I wait for the Leica version. I also have the two Leica adapters stacked, and that combination is also fine. I like to use my M lenses, so having the second adapter is better than fluffing about switching adapters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted January 30, 2016 Share #17 Posted January 30, 2016 Here with the 60mm Macro-Elmarit-R and additional Macro adapter Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/255563-novoflex-adapter-for-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2979220'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted February 7, 2016 Share #18 Posted February 7, 2016 Novoflex manufacture an R to M adapter under licence which is 6 bit coded and enables access to the R lens menu on the M 240. Does this adapter also enable access to the R lens menu on the SL when used with the Leica M Adapter T ? I am wondering if adding a 6 bit code to my non-6 bit code Novoflex R to M (LEM/LER) adapter would enable access to an SL's R lens menu? dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted February 7, 2016 Share #19 Posted February 7, 2016 Have you tried combining the R-M and M-T adapters? They work well as essentially dumb adapters. I agree it would be nice to have a R-SL adapter, but there's no need to wait. I get dark corners with long lenses. The M mount diameter constricts the light path. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted February 7, 2016 Share #20 Posted February 7, 2016 Novoflex manufacture an R to M adapter under licence which is 6 bit coded and enables access to the R lens menu on the M 240. Does this adapter also enable access to the R lens menu on the SL when used with the Leica M Adapter T ? I am wondering if adding a 6 bit code to my non-6 bit code Novoflex R to M (LEM/LER) adapter would enable access to an SL's R lens menu? dunk Yes, John Milich cut 6 notches in my uncoded Novoflex R to M adapter a few years ago, I painted them up to show the official (LEM/LER) pattern, and the M to T adapter that I got with my SL recognizes it, bringing up the R lens menu to choose profiles and insert several pieces of lens metadata into the DNG files. Curiously, my M240 did not recognize my painted Novoflex adapter. I think its IR sensors are more finicky and my white wasn't white enough or my black black enough. As a result, on the SL I now have the option of using a Leica adapter, with a tripod fitting, that balances better with 100, 180 and 280 R lenses, or the smaller Novoflex for smaller, always-hand-held R lenses. As Doug Herr notes, the narrow M throat in the middle can cause vignetting with lenses whose exit pupil is way out in front of the camera. The 280 is an example, so this should also be an issue with the longer Telyt-Modul lenses. I have not seen any problem using stacked adapters with the APO 100 or the APO 180. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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