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Here's some more comparison of slightly buttoned down (f/4, I think) with wide open(1.4) on the Summilux-R 80:

 

First at 1.4, ISO 50 and still had to use 1/8000 (electronic shutter)

 

23839843802_b7592d3081_h.jpgL1000668 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

Then at f/4:

 

23652447940_eb52e69b5c_h.jpgL1000670 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

at web scale both seem sharp across the image, but click through to the larger version and you will see the difference.  On the f/4 picture, you can count

 

the rust spots on the bolts at the end of the crane counterweight, but not on the other.

 

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Two more campus construction shots:

 

23580236519_59ebe8c879_h.jpgL1000664 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

and the pretentious approach to our new Brain Sciences Institute.

 

23580273909_d657fc59dd_h.jpgL1000687 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

On the billboard, it looks as if the approach to the building will be a broad set of steps, sunlit most of the day, sort of like the US Supreme Court or the southern entrance to the Temple Mount.  But what is that diagonal slash for?  I can only think that there was a late addition made of a ramp for handicapped access.

 

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Some snaps from dinner tonight, using the Summilux-R 80, all shots at f/1.4, 1/160, various ISOs (all high):

 

23341822454_acd09652e8_h.jpgL1000765 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

23674374050_7da7e244d6_h.jpgL1000756 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

I shot about 100 frames today, over several hours, with fairly frequent focus magnification.  One bar left on the battery.  I was hoping for better battery life.

 

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… I shot about 100 frames today, over several hours, with fairly frequent focus magnification.  One bar left on the battery.  I was hoping for better battery life.

Scott

 

Battery life noticeably improved after I turned off WiFi and GPS, I assume, owing to continual software 'handshaking' with other devices behind the scenes.  I don't use auto-review but I presume that that would affect battery life if you use it.

 

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Battery life noticeably improved after I turned off WiFi and GPS, I assume, owing to continual software 'handshaking' with other devices behind the scenes.  I don't use auto-review but I presume that that would affect battery life if you use it.

 

Pete.

I have WiFi off, GPS on, auto review off, and am using only manual focus.  Maybe the GPS indoors is getting anxious.

 

If Leica offered a way of running under external power, I could separate out these factors, but the usual rule is that the number of active hours is the real limit.  In the meantime, I leave the battery on the charger overnight, with both lights on.

 

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Here are two from the Noguchi sculpture garden this morning, using the 80 Summilux-R:

 

23686419420_22a74f3398_h.jpgL1000827 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

23873901272_5adb7ee2bb_h.jpgL1000854 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

the album is (I hope) visible at https://www.flickr.com/gp/133969392@N05/181K65

 

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When I'm not shooting much but I'm fussing over the camera settings and stuff, I get 100-150 shots on a charge. 

When I go out to shoot with a freshly charged battery, I can make 200 exposures and barely see the battery indicator change. 

 

So usage—what you're doing, how you're working the camera—counts a lot. Nowadays, I'm always leaving GPS on and not worrying about it. I have a fresh battery in the bag at least. On days when I shoot a lot, I don't need it ... on days when I don't shoot much, I do. Seems to work fine ... just shoot more.  B)

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When I'm not shooting much but I'm fussing over the camera settings and stuff, I get 100-150 shots on a charge. 

When I go out to shoot with a freshly charged battery, I can make 200 exposures and barely see the battery indicator change. 

 

So usage—what you're doing, how you're working the camera—counts a lot. Nowadays, I'm always leaving GPS on and not worrying about it. I have a fresh battery in the bag at least. On days when I shoot a lot, I don't need it ... on days when I don't shoot much, I do. Seems to work fine ... just shoot more.  B)

I quite agree - casual shooting seems to give a fairly limited  battery life.

Last event I did with it I shot 800 shots over 5 hours  and there was still 1 bar left on the first  battery. 

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Jono, when you are shooting an event (or a train of tractors), do you turn off auto-review and also fix the display in the viewfinder, so that the LCD is only on when you need to review pictures or the menus, and the 4 MP viewfinder times out quickly?  My hunch is that most of the power goes to run liveview, which after all is a form of video.  There was some discussion a while back about how setting viewfinder only frees up some buttons.

 

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Thanks for all the answers here for seeking advise for a 90mm to be used with the SL.

In the end I decided to go for the 24-90mm SL lens.

 

This is my current lens inventory for the SL:

1. 0.95 Noctilux for those events where I know that light might be bad and where I will have time to focus in patience. (I can use the Nocti also with the M8)

2. 23mm T Summicron for quick and dirty work, for images that will be only for the internet, and where I do not want to carry a very heavy gear with me.

3. the 24-90 SL lens for all other events (family, sports, marriages etc)

4. Elmarit-R 60 with additional macro adapter

 

Have a nice 2016 and enjoy the SL!

 

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Here are shots from the same position, without any postprocessing, by the AA90-R/2.0 and by the APO-Macro Elmarit-R/2.8.  I looked for a scene with lots of detail and relatively even light.

 

First the AA90-R (shot at f/4, ISO 200):

 

23743914192_edabf71759_h.jpgL1000523 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

then the APO Macro-Elmarit shot at f/5.6 ISO 200):

 

23556568160_9a4291a3e1_h.jpgL1000528 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

 

Frankly, you can itemize the toys on the back porches with either lens.

 

scott

 

 

Is it me or your shots are overexposed / lack contrast  - hmm...like big time?? :blink:

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Jono, when you are shooting an event (or a train of tractors), do you turn off auto-review and also fix the display in the viewfinder, so that the LCD is only on when you need to review pictures or the menus, and the 4 MP viewfinder times out quickly?  My hunch is that most of the power goes to run liveview, which after all is a form of video.  There was some discussion a while back about how setting viewfinder only frees up some buttons.

 

 

My batteries are too new to be fully conditioned yet, other than the first, (just not enough charge cycles so far...) but I'm finding the SL definitely consumes more power when it's used sparingly and power cycled frequently. When you turn it on and just get down to shooting, my shots per charge double and triple over the number I get just putzing around and making an occasional shot. I haven't seen much difference whether I set it to LCD only, EVF only, or auto-switching, although I could believe that the auto-switching consumes a disproportionate amount of power. Even turning GPS on and off seems trivial compared to how I'm shooting.

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They are intentionally left flat, no post processing.  This was a test of lens sharpness and contrast on an overcast day, not an attempt at art.

 

scott 

I tested SL for a whole week now. No images SOOC were so flat ( far from that ), so I have to admit that I still don't get it...Excuse my ignorance, but I really wouldn't know how to produce such flat images... or why? :blink:

 

 

 

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@profus -- are you by any chance viewing those images on Firefox?  It sometimes pales out jpegs made by certain releases of Capture One.  So this might be your probem.

 

As a matter of fact- yes, I do! I have just started Chrome to compare it with and the difference is massive :o

They are completely paled out on Firefox and I couldn't help wondering why nobody notices that :p:rolleyes:

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As a matter of fact- yes, I do! I have just started Chrome to compare it with and the difference is massive :o

They are completely paled out on Firefox and I couldn't help wondering why nobody notices that :p:rolleyes:

My apologies for my reaction, which was to find your comments rather irritating.  I use Chrome or Safari. I have heard this from one other person, who was using Firefox.  But those pictures were rather flat, and left that way on purpose.  COne must make JPEGs that are not bulletproof.  It has happened before. The next release usually fixes it.  I'll download Firefox and at least send COne a bug report.

 

thanks,

 

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My batteries are too new to be fully conditioned yet, other than the first, (just not enough charge cycles so far...) but I'm finding the SL definitely consumes more power when it's used sparingly and power cycled frequently. When you turn it on and just get down to shooting, my shots per charge double and triple over the number I get just putzing around and making an occasional shot. I haven't seen much difference whether I set it to LCD only, EVF only, or auto-switching, although I could believe that the auto-switching consumes a disproportionate amount of power. Even turning GPS on and off seems trivial compared to how I'm shooting.

It's been cold and miserable here for the past day or two.  No good excuse to run a battery down.  But I think I'll do what I used to do with the M8 -- turn automatic viewing time to infinity and see how long the battery holds out.  That lets me charge the battery a full cycle, which some feel is best.   Nothing is ever completely agreed to with batteries, but I've observed that laptop batteries that are almost always left on a charger end up dead rather soon.

 

scott

 

edit:  Can't do that.  Setting autoreview to "permanent" means that the camera goes dark after about a minute.

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The macro elmar is a lovely lens.  Not as sharp as the AA, it nonetheless produces attractive images.  It won't, however, do macro on the SL unless you add a spacer. Mine comes with goggles, rather than the newer spacing adapter, which is expensive.  

I also have the Macro-Elmar-M with the older "googled" Macro-Adapter-M.  And I don't have an SL, but why can't you use the older "googled" Macro-Adapter-M on the SL and just ignore the googles?

 

Guy

 

...and a Happy New Year!

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