TimF Posted August 5, 2006 Share #81 Posted August 5, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) That's the very greatness of Bach: His music can never be destroyed And Mozart too I dare say. He manages to survive even Florence Foster Jenkins efforts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pilot Posted August 5, 2006 Share #82 Posted August 5, 2006 Steve If you think I'm exaggerating, just look at some of the stuff they review in Stereophile. Some of those speakers fetch that price and they have less in them than mine do. Bryan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEd Posted August 5, 2006 Share #83 Posted August 5, 2006 Bach...The father of western music as we know it. Piazzolla. Yes. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findus Posted August 5, 2006 Author Share #84 Posted August 5, 2006 Edisaacs, Astor Piazzolla... forgot that ... very nice music indeed. We have 4 cd's... not easy to get here though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 5, 2006 Share #85 Posted August 5, 2006 Also in addition to the Gould being the bomb diggity, I can heartily recommend the following recording without any reservation: Martha Argerich's Rach 3 on the Phillips label with conductor Chailly. it is the benchmark with all sonic standards. Also I encode all of my cd's in 64 kbps mp3 VBR on my 60 gb iPod. I'm not the highest end audiophile but it's good enough (i notice the shortcoming but don't care) for lugging around the max number of songs around on a portable setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 5, 2006 Share #86 Posted August 5, 2006 Also I encode all of my cd's in 64 kbps mp3 Jeeze Alfie, buy a wind up gramophone and you'll notice an improvement in quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 5, 2006 Share #87 Posted August 5, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...Martha Argerich's Rach 3 on the Phillips label with conductor Chailly. it is the benchmark with all sonic standards... Try Byron Janis Albert and tell me what you think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Posted August 5, 2006 Share #88 Posted August 5, 2006 PS, I should have mentioned the Dire Straits as my (benchmark) band. B+W CDM-7NT speakers selected from a number of speakers using a test disk NAD 370 integrated amp Rotel RCD-1070 CD I would never have guessed that the Mark Knopfler, Emy Lou Harris album would be so strong. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 6, 2006 Share #89 Posted August 6, 2006 I have a vinyl turntable. It is awesome but it is not portable. I'm afraid the iPod wins in many respects. I can lug around my complete collection of CD's. I bet that there are many who use the iPod regularly with their hi-fi systems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 6, 2006 Share #90 Posted August 6, 2006 [...] I can heartily recommend the following recording without any reservation: Martha Argerich's Rach 3 on the Phillips label with conductor Chailly. it is the benchmark with all sonic standards. No! It does indeed boast a yellow sticker that reads: 'THE BEST RECORDING OF RACH 3' ('Rach 3' - the world is going mad!), but Argerich is in my opinion over-worshipped (for the same reason that Carlos Kleiber was - they appeared rarely and if so very hesitantly in public after a certain point). She is a brilliant pianist, but in the Rachmaninoff - though she is certainly effective because she has the bravura and draws on her own mental anguish (she is depressive) to give the music a tormented poignancy - at the pinnacle I would place both Rachmaninoff himself (Philadelphia Ormandy 1939/40) and Horowitz (especially the recordings with the NYPO under Barbirolli (1940/41) and the same forces under Ormandy (1978), the latter not being as "devastating" but perhaps even more penetrating for its penetrating lyricism lack of hystrionics). With LCT I distinctly agree about the Janis/Munch but would also add William Kapell (live 1948), and would certainly never be without the truly great Gilels (with Cluytens, 1955), who always brings a unique insight to all the music he touches. Best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 6, 2006 Share #91 Posted August 6, 2006 ...Horowitz (especially the recordings with the NYPO under Barbirolli (1940/41) and the same forces under Ormandy (1978)... I do like the Ormandy version as well but i don't know the Barbirolli. Any link to it K.P.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 6, 2006 Share #92 Posted August 6, 2006 I do like the Ormandy version as well but i don't know the Barbirolli.Any link to it K.P.? Dear LCT, Le voilà: Amazon.fr : Horowitz in Concert: Musique: Sergey Rachmaninov,Pyotr Il'yich Tchaikovsky,Sir John Barbirolli,Vladimir Horowitz,New York Philharmonic Best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 6, 2006 Share #93 Posted August 6, 2006 Thank you much my friend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 6, 2006 Share #94 Posted August 6, 2006 Thank you much my friend! Pas de quoi! But beware: it's got a lot of... grain!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 6, 2006 Share #95 Posted August 6, 2006 No problem K.P. my digital hi-fi set won't add some chaff to the wheat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 6, 2006 Share #96 Posted August 6, 2006 Jeeze Alfie, buy a wind up gramophone and you'll notice an improvement in quality. Just make sure the needle's sharp! LOL! 192AAC is a good compromise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilot Posted August 6, 2006 Share #97 Posted August 6, 2006 Albert Argerich's Rach 3 isn't the best recording in the house by far, and the performance leaves a lot to be desired. Rachmaninoff's own recording is marvellous but he leaves a huge chunk out of the last movement. I often wonder if they lost a side and never bothered to re-record it. As Leica_mage points out, Gilels made one of the great recordings but he also makes cuts. I still have the original LP I bought back in 1957. I'm rather fond of Lazar Berman though he's not to everyone's taste. If you want a great recording from the sound point of view, you can do no better than Petrushka and the Rite of Spring on Decca with the Montreal Symphony and Charles Dutoit. You'll need really good equipment to bring out the best though. Bryan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted August 6, 2006 Share #98 Posted August 6, 2006 AlbertI'm rather fond of Lazar Berman though he's not to everyone's taste. Bryan Berman is an utter master, no less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 6, 2006 Share #99 Posted August 6, 2006 Yes, but I didn't say that Argerich's Rach 3 is necessarily the best one played but the best one overall. I can't see a recording from the late 1950's have better sonic engineering than the recordings from the 1970's and 1980's. Sorry but the engineering and restoration can't match up to a higher quality recording at the 1st time than say, a Marston remake here. I think that Kapell recordings are awesome but the RCA remastering need to be improved on. In fact, I pretty much stick to classical recordings made during the past 40 years as they are in stereo from the early 1960's. Mono recordings are just not able to capture the feel of the atmosphere as well as stereo. It's cool for historical purposes but that's about it. Actually, Lupu has some awesome recordings too. Richter is probably my favorite pianist in general although I still think that Gould is the thinking man's pianist, the most intellectual of them all. It's good that we can talk about classical recordings. Most kids my generation don't even know who Mozart is. Saddddddddddd.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flatfour Posted August 6, 2006 Share #100 Posted August 6, 2006 Vengerov and Bruch,Mendelsohn, Beethoven- Tatum, Marsalis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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