pico Posted December 4, 2015 Share #21 Posted December 4, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) could you please explain how they work these days? One explanation is here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Hi pico, Take a look here Slow start up?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wlaidlaw Posted December 4, 2015 Share #22 Posted December 4, 2015 Technically it does to harm because full overwrite causes more wear than normal writes to the card, however the cards have (or should have) such an enormous write cycle capacity I doubt anyone here will be effected. Jac, I will be pushing up the daisies long before I have worn out any of my SD cards. I tend to chuck them anyway after 4 or 5 years. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 4, 2015 Share #23 Posted December 4, 2015 Jac, I will be pushing up the daisies long before I have worn out any of my SD cards. I can hope that your cards last a long time, and you too. 'Jac': the cat is out of the bag and it's time to reveal my name. Jac Stafford. Jac is, or was seventy years-ag, a common male and female nickname from my Mother's nationality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 4, 2015 Share #24 Posted December 4, 2015 I can hope that your cards last a long time, and you too. 'Jac': the cat is out of the bag and it's time to reveal my name. Jac Stafford. Jac is, or was seventy years-ag, a common male and female nickname from my Mother's nationality. Jac, Sorry - didn't mean to "out" you. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 4, 2015 Share #25 Posted December 4, 2015 Jac, Sorry - didn't mean to "out" you. Wilson It is perfect alright. I had planned to update my information anyway. You simply reminded me. All is good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J S H Posted December 4, 2015 Share #26 Posted December 4, 2015 Initially, I had very slow startup (10-12 seconds) with two Lexar UHS 2 1000x 256GB cards in place. Then I switched to a Sandisk Extreme pro UHS 1 256 GB in slot 1 and a Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS 1 128GB card in slot 2. Startup time is now 1-2 seconds, which is great considering the large size of the cards. I'm waiting on Sandisk to release a 256 GB UHS 2 card before I try to go back to UHS 2. Lexar cards just don't seem to work very well in the SL, and my experience is that it's the opposite in the Sonys (they like Lexar better than Sandisk). But it could be that it's the UHS 2 that is slowing things down at startup and it's not the flavor of card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 4, 2015 Share #27 Posted December 4, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) No problems for me with same same spec Lexar cards but they are only 64GB. I felt using cards as big as 256GB was a bit putting ones eggs in one basket, although if you turn Storage back to ON on card setup, this would be much less of a concern. Looking at some of the folks having problems on this thread, larger cards seem to be the common factor. The other point is that the cost per GB is higher above 64GB. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J S H Posted December 5, 2015 Share #28 Posted December 5, 2015 I shoot time lapse cinematography for a living, so capacity is the first criteria with speed a close second. I have since switched to two of the Sandisk 256 GB UHS 1 cards and it did not adversely affect the startup time, so I'm sticking with that configuration for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulgido Posted January 10, 2016 Share #29 Posted January 10, 2016 With new firmware when I switch on the camera it need 10 sec and 2 sec for wake up, do anybody else have the same problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 10, 2016 Share #30 Posted January 10, 2016 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 10, 2016 Share #31 Posted January 10, 2016 With new firmware when I switch on the camera it need 10 sec and 2 sec for wake up, do anybody else have the same problem? Might I politely suggest you read through this thread from the beginning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulgido Posted January 12, 2016 Share #32 Posted January 12, 2016 I did, I also try to follow suggestions, change both card with 2 lexar 2000x 64GB 300 mb/s, turn of GPS and wlan but, in the same time, I upgrade the firmware. With old FW I had to wait about 7 sec for switch on and 7 for wake up, now with new FW is about 10 and 2, ok for 2 but 10 looks strange. I use a nocti with t adapter. For sure I made some mistake someware, in any case sorry if it looks that I didn't read your post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 13, 2016 Share #33 Posted January 13, 2016 I did, I also try to follow suggestions, change both card with 2 lexar 2000x 64GB 300 mb/s, turn of GPS and wlan but, in the same time, I upgrade the firmware. With old FW I had to wait about 7 sec for switch on and 7 for wake up, now with new FW is about 10 and 2, ok for 2 but 10 looks strange. I use a nocti with t adapter. For sure I made some mistake someware, in any case sorry if it looks that I didn't read your post. Check the laser printing on the back of your Lexar cards. If they are C spec on the middle line of printing - last character, they are not fully compatible with the SL. They need to be D spec or above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 13, 2016 Share #34 Posted January 13, 2016 I did, I also try to follow suggestions, change both card with 2 lexar 2000x 64GB 300 mb/s, turn of GPS and wlan but, in the same time, I upgrade the firmware. With old FW I had to wait about 7 sec for switch on and 7 for wake up, now with new FW is about 10 and 2, ok for 2 but 10 looks strange. I use a nocti with t adapter. For sure I made some mistake someware, in any case sorry if it looks that I didn't read your post. start up times are 1-2 seconds max with the Leica AF lenses attached. start up times with manual lenses on an adapter appear to be MUCH slower .... but still in the order of 3-4 seconds this can ONLY be a bug in the firmware as there is no electrical connection to the lens and if anything start up should be quicker than when using an AF lens all the other variations appear appear to be card and formatting related ...... try a full erase and format with SD-Formatter and see what happens ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 13, 2016 Share #35 Posted January 13, 2016 My SL with M to T adapter and MF lens starts up from cold in the same time as with an AF SL lens mounted, in between 1 and 2 seconds. I bought my M to T with the SL and I know it was new stock at that time. I did wonder, since the M to T/L adapter was originally designed for the T camera, there are not two generations of M to T and it was updated on the quiet, like the SF58 flash was. So people with the later version are not getting the start up delay on the SL but for the older version, it is not coupling as well as might be hoped to the SL. Hopefully this will be something that can be sorted in a future firmware update (must be getting to be a long list by now). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted January 14, 2016 Share #36 Posted January 14, 2016 I just checked my camera with Lexar 64GB 2000x UHS-II cards. Turn-on is about 1.6s with a single card inserted (either slot), and about 2.2s with both cards inserted. I am running firmware version 1.2. GPS was on and W-LAN was off. This is with the 24-90 AF lens attached. I haven't tried it with a manual lens, but since I'm never going to focus and shoot super fast with a manual lens I wouldn't care if startup were a second or two slower. - Jared Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kub Posted January 14, 2016 Share #37 Posted January 14, 2016 Bonjour, I have slow startup only if i use the second slot (testing with two cards - Lexar Pro 32 GB 300 mb/s and Premium 16 GB 45 mb/s - in the second slot). When this slot is empty the startup is very fast (1 second or less). Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson.gabriel Posted March 13, 2016 Share #38 Posted March 13, 2016 I can also report extremely slow start-up (7-12 seconds) when using a second SD card. I tried every possible combination of cards and write preferences (1=2 or 1+2); if I only use one SanDisk 64G U3 card in slot number 1 (upper slot), startup is 1 second or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted March 13, 2016 Share #39 Posted March 13, 2016 Hello, we had this discussion already a month ago. I tested it then already, but cannot find the entry anymore, so cannot link to it. I showed the trouble-free Startup/Wake-up times with my camera. So here I try to repeat: GPS is turned off. Using a R 50 with the Leica adapter stack. A: 1 fast card: In slot 1 (UHS-II slot) "fast" Lexar 1000x 64 GB UHS-II card : Resulting time 0.5 s B: 2 cards (fast + slow) : Additionally in slot 2 "slow" Kingston 128 GB UHS-I card: (empty) : Resulting time 2.5 s C: verification, 1 fast card : Took out the second card again, same result as at the beginning, as expected : Resulting time 0.5 s So if startup time is crucial, try to work only with a single slot. Stephan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 13, 2016 Share #40 Posted March 13, 2016 Odd I have always have 2x sandisk 16gb extreme pro 280 mb/s UHS II cards formatted in SD formatter in the camera ....... and turn on/wake up speed is just over a second (1.3-1.5)..... and well under a second with one card, irrespective of which slot If speed is important I would suggest : Use high speed UHS II cards Use moderate capacity cards ..... high capacity cards slow things down ..... 16gb seems the optimum Use identical cards throughout Format FULLY in SD formatter before use Format (Quick) in SD formatter when full If you do the above the speed benefit of a single card over 2 will be minimal ...... and you won't lose the advantages of a second in the camera... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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