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J S H Posted May 11, 2016 Share #62 Posted May 11, 2016 28 M Lux @ 2.0 Left Edge Crop Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252358-apo-vario-elmarit-sl-24-90-zoom/?do=findComment&comment=3042703'>More sharing options...
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J S H Posted May 11, 2016 Share #74 Posted May 11, 2016 Also, some full frame images showing max magnification from the 24-90, 35-70R and 90M F4 Macro. 24-90 at 90, minimum focus distance Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/252358-apo-vario-elmarit-sl-24-90-zoom/?do=findComment&comment=3042716'>More sharing options...
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xiaubauu2009 Posted May 12, 2016 Share #77 Posted May 12, 2016 The traditional lens test is done shooting a flat surface. Sharpness throughout the frame, corner softness, pin-cushioning etc. can be quantitatively measured. That's fine for a lens designed to optimise on a flat recording surface such as film, but if an image can be manipulated in-camera to get rid of these weaknesses, then it's logical to take the lens design and manufacturing to a place where the recorded image on the sensor no longer matters, as it's never seen...until it's processed in-camera, and then first viewed on either the EVF or backscreen. Why not make a lens that records a distorted 21MMish field-of-view, and then pull and squeeze it into a 24mm equivalent image, especially if cost reductions can be made? For me, the problem is what happens during the corrections. The image has been corrected - simplistically - almost literally by squaring the circle. From what the Q camera has shown for the most part the corrections work very well, since most images are shot square-on, many are shot off one-axis, fewer on two; hardly any, on three. The corrections work fine under all these conditions, save the last. That's why the reviewers' photo are fine for the planes they are shot in, and why the reviewers themselves are pleased with the workings of the lens. They haven't tested the lens with the third plane off-axis. Testing three planes off-axis would push the corrections to their maximum stress. The proverbial brick wall would be shot quarter angle at 45 degrees, with the camera pointing upward 45 degrees, and the camera rotated 45 degrees. On a tripod, of course. Then, for any standard focal length, an equivalent, non-digitally-optimized prime lens would take the picture in the exactly same position for comparison. This way, all planes simultaneously recede into the other two which will allow us to see if the corrections hold up under the weight of the double keystoning. The foreshortening and keystoning of the 21MMish uncorrected lens could then be compared to the traditional keystoning and foreshortening of the prime. Ditto for the traditional softness, pincushioning, and suchlike. Really, it has to do with establishing different testing conditions and shifting traditional testing practises. Since the correctable lens no longer has to satisfy the two dimensions of the film-plane, testing it in two dimensions (the brick wall), no longer matters. Testing it under three dimensions will prove its worthiness. Three way off-axis images occur on the street, at the war front and under many photo-journalistic, photo-documentary situations. Generally speaking, under moments of spontaneous capture. Something which - as we all know! - the rangefinder particularly excels at. A quick question, why would correcting a 3 plane off-axis image be more complicated than a normal 1 plane or even level image in-camera? The lens itself is static in relation to the sensor it exposes, the parameter for distortion correction will remain the same as the relationship of the lens to the sensor is the same... doesn't mean that by tilting and swinging my camera the whole parameter will be different, right? Please correct me if I am wrong..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted May 12, 2016 Share #78 Posted May 12, 2016 A quick question, why would correcting a 3 plane off-axis image be more complicated than a normal 1 plane or even level image in-camera? The lens itself is static in relation to the sensor it exposes, the parameter for distortion correction will remain the same as the relationship of the lens to the sensor is the same... doesn't mean that by tilting and swinging my camera the whole parameter will be different, right? Please correct me if I am wrong..... It's not. Distortion correction is done in the cylindrical coordinates of the lens itself. The rest is just geometry. We had this conversation in the forum back in November of last year. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpclee Posted May 12, 2016 Share #79 Posted May 12, 2016 The Otus looks impeccable. But then again it's so huge and heavy -- even bigger and heavier than the 24-90, for a prime! 28 Zeiss Otus @ 5.6 Left Edge Crop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem331 Posted May 12, 2016 Share #80 Posted May 12, 2016 Is the M 28mm lux as bad (comparatively) as this test suggests? Is it the matching with the SL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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