hepcat Posted February 25, 2016 Share #61 Posted February 25, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) rangefinders type cameras were created for their mobility and a small lenses just like the Leica hero Henri Cartier-Bresson............ Oh yes and let's talk about how convenient the Visoflex is to work with hand-held... oh wait... a Visoflex! Made by Leitz. For tripod use with close focus and long lenses! Oh yeah... perhaps they are to be used on a tripod after all. Why else would they have a tripod socket? Unless, of course, it's one of jaapv's special-edition tripod-socket-less $18,000 cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ECohen Posted February 25, 2016 Share #62 Posted February 25, 2016 Maybe Leicas dont belong on cheap flimsy tripods? Its a camera sometimes you need a tripod ...but I was trained "old school" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted February 25, 2016 Share #63 Posted February 25, 2016 Yes you have to change your camera though a S2 is acceptable ............... rangefinders type cameras were created for their mobility and a small lenses just like the Leica hero Henri Cartier-Bresson............ leave your tripod and bag of lenses home Yes, and it helps mobility no end if you carry your Leica for mobility and another camera set with its tripod for the other pictures which may offer themselves at the same occasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 25, 2016 Share #64 Posted February 25, 2016 Yes you have to change your camera though a S2 is acceptable ............... rangefinders type cameras were created for their mobility and a small lenses just like the Leica hero Henri Cartier-Bresson............ leave your tripod and bag of lenses home By the looks of it, you have to leave your senses at home too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share #65 Posted February 25, 2016 Yes you have to change your camera though a S2 is acceptable ............... rangefinders type cameras were created for their mobility and a small lenses just like the Leica hero Henri Cartier-Bresson............ leave your tripod and bag of lenses home I have to disagree for my part. For me the M is ideal for tripod work as well as street without tripod/bag. With tripod you get to fully utilze the lenses and sensor. Also with EVF / LV on the M its actually much better to work on tripod than the M9. Its also something with the handling and user interfaces of M that suits me. When I try DSLRs or mirrorless I get bogged down in endless switches and menues. Try focusing on infinity on other cameraes. Try finding the self timer. Etc. I live in an area where the sun is below horizon for 2 months. Landscape photography without tripod? I dont think so. Aurora borealis without tripod, hmmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share #66 Posted February 25, 2016 Maybe Leicas dont belong on cheap flimsy tripods? Its a camera sometimes you need a tripod ...but I was trained "old school" If you refer to me I belive you should redirect the question to Berlebach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted February 25, 2016 Share #67 Posted February 25, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is a funny conversation.........Its a camera. When we all learned photography the most important piece of equipment in your kit after the camera was a good tripod...... Nothing has changed. Granted not everything you shoot requires a tripod....But to say the Leica wasn't designed to be used on a tripod...I think some basic photography lessons are in order. Perhaps we need a new thread for this form member...."When do you use a tripod" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted February 25, 2016 Share #68 Posted February 25, 2016 If you refer to me I belive you should redirect the question to Berlebach just meant it as a joke .......oh gosh no defiantly not aimed at you ......I have the utmost respect for anyone who shoots and shares such wonderful photos with us. GREAT PHOTO!!! If you thought that I must have mis read the posts please accept my apology sincerely thanks EC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share #69 Posted February 25, 2016 just meant it as a joke .......oh gosh no defiantly not aimed at you ......I have the utmost respect for anyone who shoots and shares such wonderful photos with us. GREAT PHOTO!!! If you thought that I must have mis read the posts please accept my apology sincerely thanks EC Not to worry, I actually took it as a joke, and so was my answer meant to be. English is not my native language, so sorry for misunderstandings. Back to topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted February 25, 2016 Share #70 Posted February 25, 2016 By the looks of it, you have to leave your senses at home too. Adam at least I have something to leave at home ................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted February 25, 2016 Share #71 Posted February 25, 2016 Carrying a tripod around is like carrying a stick around to point at things instead of using your finger. ...........with great high iso's the need for tripods diminishes even further...................... they call the wind mariah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted February 25, 2016 Share #72 Posted February 25, 2016 Carrying a tripod around is like carrying a stick around to point at things instead of using your finger. ...........with great high iso's the need for tripods diminishes even further...................... they call the wind mariah You've got to be just trying to get a rise out of us....and I guess its working ....But you still dead wrong. Granted not all jobs require a tripod but the tool is far from outdated Let see ISO 200 or ISO 3200 I'll take 200 every time. A tripod is also good for thinking, planing and slowing down....and lets not forger choosing a slower shutter speed for technique. That said your are correct..... for the work that you do and your given style you personally have no need for a tripod. As a blanket statement " ...........with great high iso's the need for tripods diminishes even further...................... " makes you sound like you dont know what your talking about Weird...your work says you do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 26, 2016 Share #73 Posted February 26, 2016 Adam at least I have something to leave at home ................... And you did, a long, long time ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted February 26, 2016 Share #74 Posted February 26, 2016 alas Adam you have all this home time to devote me ............thanks hop over to my mojo thread again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 26, 2016 Share #75 Posted February 26, 2016 alas Adam you have all this home time to devote me ............thanks hop over to my mojo thread again Don't get excited, for most here, replying to conversations like the one we are having takes less time than to sneeze. It is a quick in and out exercise in the absurd. There you go, cleared my sinuses, off to do something interesting. But you keep hopping, if that is your thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted February 26, 2016 Share #76 Posted February 26, 2016 Let see ISO 200 or ISO 3200 I'll take 200 every time This is like bracket creep there was 25, 50, 100, 125 asa film all that has fallen along with 100 iso fof early digital camera s. The lower iso will disappear as sensors improve, tripods will confine themselves to studios and in the broom closet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share #77 Posted February 26, 2016 This is like bracket creep there was 25, 50, 100, 125 asa film all that has fallen along with 100 iso fof early digital camera s. The lower iso will disappear as sensors improve, tripods will confine themselves to studios and in the broom closet. Perhaps, but we are discussing now, and the current M 240. Please feel free to state "I told you so" in, lets say 10 years time ? In the meantime it would be great if I and others were alloved to use whatever techniques and tools we see fit . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted February 26, 2016 Share #78 Posted February 26, 2016 Use them I am not stopping you ..........but even now 1600 is a heap better than 400 on the m8 The tools are there but there is a heap of heads in the sand when it comes to using the technology that Leica offers. Now let's ponder that pointing stick"............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted February 26, 2016 Share #79 Posted February 26, 2016 Now let's ponder that pointing stick"............ Some also point with sticky fingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted February 26, 2016 Share #80 Posted February 26, 2016 Camera shake is only one reason to use a tripod....use 'em or not the choice is yours. As for ISO we are so far no noise at any setting I don't even think we will see no noise and good contrast, combination in even 10years? What is the perfect sensor? I also think its nice to have ISO as another way of controlling the light entering your camera. Once tamed the only change is to adjust sensor sensitive, in theory we would be able to do without that control ....Fortunately Leica will always keep it on there cameras for nostalgia ....like the base plate So for my foreseeable future I'll work around ISO characteristics and keep a tripod near by for when I need it.....That way works for me. Hmmmm here's a brain fart....Perhaps once we tamed the future of ISO could morph into another useful "creative" camera control ? I know we put the personal character into our photos in Photoshop. Remember when film choice use to do that for us? Perhaps ISO could be "another" creative control ? Remember this new creative control will be 20 years in the future...so to kids it would be a new button. And of course it will only work in JPG;-) Am I thinking too much like an old guy? Should we get rid of ISO if we can?....We do like our Leica' s simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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