Tony Mac Posted August 29, 2015 Share #1 Posted August 29, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Maybe someone can help with this anomaly. In two images from my first roll with the M6 (with a 35mm Summicron asph), there is a weird thing that happened which looks kind of like a gate flare. Anybody know what could have caused this? It's particularly prevalent in the first image, there was a bright HMI light to my right (I was on a film set) but I remember it was mostly blocked by a flag. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249439-strange-flarelight-leakflashed-film/?do=findComment&comment=2878748'>More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted August 29, 2015 Share #2 Posted August 29, 2015 Can't it have been a fault during developing the film? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mac Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted August 29, 2015 Can't it have been a fault during developing the film? That's what seems most likely. It's odd though, as these weren't sequential images. I found one more image, albeit out of focus, on that roll with the same anomaly...you can see it at the top of the white bounce card. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249439-strange-flarelight-leakflashed-film/?do=findComment&comment=2878751'>More sharing options...
normclarke Posted August 29, 2015 Share #4 Posted August 29, 2015 Light leak from the bottom light trap adjacent to the shutter. Best, normclarke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mac Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted August 29, 2015 Light leak from the bottom light trap adjacent to the shutter. Best, normclarke. What's the best way to remedy this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
normclarke Posted August 29, 2015 Share #6 Posted August 29, 2015 If it is proven to be the seal a replacement is necessary. an easy job for a repair person. Best, normclarke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 29, 2015 Share #7 Posted August 29, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes a light leak. Where did you buy your camera? Dealer? If so return it for a repair or refund and get another one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mac Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted August 30, 2015 Yes a light leak. Where did you buy your camera? Dealer? If so return it for a repair or refund and get another one. I bought it from a camera shop, not sure if they were a Leica dealer though. I'll contact them as they do have a service department. Is it strange that it only happens on a few pictures out of the roll? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyn.evans Posted August 30, 2015 Share #9 Posted August 30, 2015 I had the exact same light leak issue on a single frame from my last roll of film that I put through my M4-P. It happened at a point where I changed lenses. I also have an M6, and noted in the camera manual, that Leica suggest... "When the camera is loaded with film, change the lens in the shade of your body, as direct sunlight may otherwise penetrate the shutter." I know now I didn't do this, and am now waiting for my test film to be processed, to see if I have a fault with the camera, or if it was light penetration due to the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mac Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted August 30, 2015 I had the exact same light leak issue on a single frame from my last roll of film that I put through my M4-P. It happened at a point where I changed lenses. I also have an M6, and noted in the camera manual, that Leica suggest... "When the camera is loaded with film, change the lens in the shade of your body, as direct sunlight may otherwise penetrate the shutter." I know now I didn't do this, and am now waiting for my test film to be processed, to see if I have a fault with the camera, or if it was light penetration due to the above. That could have affected my shots as well...hmm. I'll wait for my other rolls to be developed and see if the same light leak comes up. Then I'll know it's the lens swap thing, I was swapping for my friend's 50mm at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyn.evans Posted August 30, 2015 Share #11 Posted August 30, 2015 Hi Tony, I've just had my test film processed, and I can confirm that in my case the light leak is being caused by changing lenses in bright sunny/direct light conditions. Now this may be due to an underlying issue with the shutter curtain on my M4-P, but knowing this, and how to avoid these light leaks, will allow me to continue shooting with confidence. I should point out, that I've now shot 10 rolls of film with my M4-P, with just 1 shot exhibiting this light leak, and that was whilst changing the lens in bright sunny conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 30, 2015 Share #12 Posted August 30, 2015 Maybe someone can help with this anomaly. In two images from my first roll with the M6 (with a 35mm Summicron asph), there is a weird thing that happened which looks kind of like a gate flare. Anybody know what could have caused this? It's particularly prevalent in the first image, there was a bright HMI light to my right (I was on a film set) but I remember it was mostly blocked by a flag. mac_t_20150826_000008190012.jpg mac_t_20150826_000008190027.jpg What is the speed exposure of the first photo , Tony ? Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mac Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted August 31, 2015 What is the speed exposure of the first photo , Tony ? Henry I think the photo of the two guys sitting on the couch was probably shot somewhere around 1/60th @ f/2.8 on Fuji 400H. That's just a good guess based on the exposure of the Red camera I was using. Could certain shutter speeds cause this issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 31, 2015 Share #14 Posted August 31, 2015 I think the photo of the two guys sitting on the couch was probably shot somewhere around 1/60th @ f/2.8 on Fuji 400H. That's just a good guess based on the exposure of the Red camera I was using. Could certain shutter speeds cause this issue? Tony, in your case 2 bands (on first photo) , the 2 anti-veils strips (up and down) located on the rear of the camera black room falls off with time and allows light to pass. You can realize looking from the back of the camera, shutter and curtain lifted open to B, with a strong lamp. The anti-veils seal the slight shutter.The veil is proportional to the time the camera is exposed to light (depends speed exposure). Must therefore be revised the camera. A curtain brake problem gives a veil oriented in the other direction ie vertical band rather not horizontal. Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted August 31, 2015 Share #15 Posted August 31, 2015 If the rebates (edges) of the film are affected, then presumably it will be a leak rather than a shutter problem. I had a lot of problems with an intermittent light-leak with my first IIIg. The dealer tried a number of times to repair it before giving up and replacing the camera. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249439-strange-flarelight-leakflashed-film/?do=findComment&comment=2879757'>More sharing options...
Tony Mac Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted August 31, 2015 Tony, in your case 2 bands (on first photo) , the 2 anti-veils strips (up and down) located on the rear of the camera black room falls off with time and allows light to pass. You can realize looking from the back of the camera, shutter and curtain lifted open to B, with a strong lamp. The anti-veils seal the slight shutter.The veil is proportional to the time the camera is exposed to light (depends speed exposure). Must therefore be revised the camera. A curtain brake problem gives a veil oriented in the other direction ie vertical band rather not horizontal. Best Henry I tried exactly as you described, shining a bright torch behind while holding the camera open to bulb, but couldn't see the light pass through. I tried both ways, light from behind the camera and light through the lens port. I do see the two anti-veils seals you're talking about though! Perhaps I will get these replaced for good measure, even though this problem seems intermittent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 31, 2015 Share #17 Posted August 31, 2015 Example of 2 images, anti veil down defective and horizontal band at the top of your imageThe best is to see the after sales Leica for your M6 . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Rg Henry Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Rg Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249439-strange-flarelight-leakflashed-film/?do=findComment&comment=2880073'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted August 31, 2015 Share #18 Posted August 31, 2015 Example of 2 images, anti veil down defective and band at the top of your image The best is to see the after sales Leica for your M6 . strip antiveil 1.jpg strip anti veil2.jpg Rg Henry Curtain brake defective > vertical band Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Keith curtain brake ? Regards Henry Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Keith curtain brake ? Regards Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249439-strange-flarelight-leakflashed-film/?do=findComment&comment=2880078'>More sharing options...
pinchers of peril Posted September 4, 2015 Share #19 Posted September 4, 2015 Hey Tony was the portrait of the girl shot on Fuji 400H as well? I love the colors in that image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Mac Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #20 Posted September 4, 2015 Hey Tony was the portrait of the girl shot on Fuji 400H as well? I love the colors in that image. Yep that was Fuji 400H. Harder to come by these days at $10 a roll... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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