asiafish Posted September 10, 2015 Share #21 Posted September 10, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Whatever the bundle, the X is a fantastic camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Trivette Posted September 10, 2015 Share #22 Posted September 10, 2015 It would be great to have a 50mm X, preferably with a Summicron or even an Elmar, but it seems unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted September 10, 2015 Share #23 Posted September 10, 2015 It would be great to have a 50mm X, preferably with a Summicron or even an Elmar, but it seems unlikely. Yes, that would be great. A 35 Summicron (equivalent to 50 Summicron) would be about the same size as the current 23 Summilux (35 equivalent) we know and love on the X. While that would be my first choice and I would prefer it over the current model, I doubt that I would bother as I already own the X and X Vario, and other than shallow depth of field the X Vario's zoom lens at the 50mm is absolute perfection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trivette Posted September 11, 2015 Share #24 Posted September 11, 2015 I keep forgetting that it's APS-C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazesus Posted September 19, 2015 Share #25 Posted September 19, 2015 I predict a 35mm F2.4 Full frame, on a leica X 113 shell (none interchangeable). Leica mentioned they needed a camera to bridge with their other lines and fill in gaps in the market M, Q and T. People who liked the Q are asking for 35mm version or 50mm. but who knows maybe it could be a 40mm, 43mm F2. Technology is moving so fast any prediction could come out sooner than later, but the name says it all X-U. Leica now needs a bridge camera to connect with the T line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trivette Posted September 20, 2015 Share #26 Posted September 20, 2015 I should think they might want to keep the price down on an X series camera: perhaps foregoing a full frame in the interest of reducing cost of the sensor and associated optics. I would go for a 40 or 50mm version of the X, but f/2 or even a bit smaller aperture would be sufficient for my needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted September 20, 2015 Share #27 Posted September 20, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I should think they might want to keep the price down on an X series camera: perhaps foregoing a full frame in the interest of reducing cost of the sensor and associated optics. I would go for a 40 or 50mm version of the X, but f/2 or even a bit smaller aperture would be sufficient for my needs. How much different from an X (Typ 113) can an X-U (Typ 113) be when they don’t even change the Typ number? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted September 20, 2015 Share #28 Posted September 20, 2015 I should think they might want to keep the price down on an X series camera: perhaps foregoing a full frame in the interest of reducing cost of the sensor and associated optics. I would go for a 40 or 50mm version of the X, but f/2 or even a bit smaller aperture would be sufficient for my needs. 40mm would be pointless with the current model at 35mm. 50mm is a possibility on the same body, but Leica hasn't done anything like that before, ie., different focal length versions of the same body unless you count the X as a different focal length version of the X Vario, but those were different (typ) number. I'd bet money it will be the same X113 we know and love, but either with a cosmetic difference or minor spec upgrade such as wifi, touchscreen or some other feature change without a change to the basic body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freitz Posted September 27, 2015 Share #29 Posted September 27, 2015 Any new developments with this rumor. Seems the other rumored cameras have people more excited. I hope its a 24-70 2.0 lens on it. Call it a day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted September 28, 2015 Share #30 Posted September 28, 2015 Any new developments with this rumor. Seems the other rumored cameras have people more excited. I hope its a 24-70 2.0 lens on it. Call it a day. 24-70 /2.8 (let alone 2.0) would cost a fortune and weigh a ton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freitz Posted September 28, 2015 Share #31 Posted September 28, 2015 24-70 /2.8 (let alone 2.0) would cost a fortune and weigh a ton. I think they could do a 2.8 lens without adding to much weight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted September 28, 2015 Share #32 Posted September 28, 2015 I predict a 35mm F2.4 Full frame, on a leica X 113 shell (none interchangeable)..... But that would no longer be an X camera. You have moved up to the Q line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted September 28, 2015 Share #33 Posted September 28, 2015 I think they could do a 2.8 lens without adding to much weight.of course you know better than Peter Karbe who designed the X Vario's lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freitz Posted September 28, 2015 Share #34 Posted September 28, 2015 of course you know better than Peter Karbe who designed the X Vario's lens. Never said that I did. No need for the added BS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted September 28, 2015 Share #35 Posted September 28, 2015 Never said that I did. No need for the added BS. Peter Karbe discussed the design limitations with the X Vario (28-70, not even 24-70) and made it very clear that a faster aperture would result in both much more weight and much higher cost to maintain the same optical quality. So are you saying you would rather have poor optical quality then? I trust Peter Karbe's description far more than talk on internet forums. I own an X Vario and the lens is exceptionally sharp at all distances, focal lengths and apertures, but it is slow. Everyone wants more speed, and the answer to that is either cost and size or performance. I too am often frustrated by the X Vario's slow lens, which is why I also own the X113 for its f/1.7 with similar quality, albeit in a fixed focal length. Even Leica cannot violate the laws of physics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikonian Posted September 28, 2015 Share #36 Posted September 28, 2015 I think they could do a 2.8 lens without adding to much weight. Have a look here: http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/zoom/normalzoom/af-s_dx_zoom17-55mmf_28g_if/index.htm That's a lens for APS-C 2.8 / 24-70 equiv. I doubt Leica will be able to make it smaller or lighter. Well, some millimeters shorter, though. Try to put this on an X or Q Body. That'll be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmschuh Posted September 28, 2015 Share #37 Posted September 28, 2015 Leica Vario: 133mm x 73mm x 95mm / 594g camera & lensNikon 17-55mm f/2.8 DX: 85,5mm / 110mm (at 40mm, it gets longer at other focal lengths) / 751g only lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted September 28, 2015 Share #38 Posted September 28, 2015 Leica Vario: 133mm x 73mm x 95mm / 594g camera & lens Nikon 17-55mm f/2.8 DX: 85,5mm / 110mm (at 40mm, it gets longer at other focal lengths) / 751g only lens And while the Nikon is a very good lens for APS-C, it isn't at the same level of quality as the lens on the X Vario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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