Shootist Posted May 21, 2007 Share #21 Posted May 21, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I don't know about anyone else but I would never use anything with stickum/glue/adhesive on it to clean a camera sensor or anything else. I have been using the Copperhill swap and PEC Pads with either Eclipse or E2 for both my D200 and M8. Never had any problem with either. There was a post over at DPReview from a guy that used scotch tape to clean his sensor. Then one day he saw streaks on his sensor after he had done a wet cleaning with Eclipse. He thought he had scratched the sensor. What the streaks were was the left over residue from the tape he had used previously. This Dust-Aids product is basically the same thing and it will not remove dust spots that are stuck on the sensor. If I were you, well I would never buy that product in the first place, I'd throw the rest of them in the garbage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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egibaud Posted May 21, 2007 Share #22 Posted May 21, 2007 Thank you very much for your history. I felt better when I read the end of your history. I am very interested in Dust-Aid clean system, but they don't ship to Europe. I had two boxes shipped to Spain and got them a month ago. Haven't used them yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photolandscape Posted May 21, 2007 Share #23 Posted May 21, 2007 That's a pretty horrifying story, but a very instructive one, and I appreciate your sharing it. I think it confirms the importance of being set up completely before begin a sensor cleaning in order to prevent any possible interruptions (short of earthquakes or major disasters). I'll be sure my answering machine is on the next time I clean my sensor, that's for sure. Considering how strong the adhesive apparently is on the Dust-Aid product, it is interesting that you were able to peel it off, and then remove all the residue, without harming the thin, glass IR filter that you are actually in contact with (as opposed to the sensor itself). One of the reasons the IR issue has been so difficult with the M8 is the fact that the glass IR filter layer is extremely thin. Thankfully, it seems to be remarkably sturdy, all things considered. Cleaning your sensor becomes easier the more you do it. Getting comfortable with the process helps. Small dust or dirt particles can be blown out or brushed off the large majority of the time. But oil-based substances, like machine oil, are a whole different challenge that blowers and brushes generally won't cure. In these instances, it's time for swabs and Eclipse 2--a product which is good to have on hand for these situations. The good thing is, you were successful. Must have been quite a relief to look at those first shots after removing the adhesive. I wonder what it would cost to get a sensor replaced in an M8? $1,500? $2,000, or ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcRochkind Posted May 21, 2007 Share #24 Posted May 21, 2007 What Hahn said above needs to be emphasized: It isn't the sensor we clean, but the glass that covers it. The sensor is probably extremely fragile, and might not even be cleanable. The glass is as hard as... glass! --Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted May 22, 2007 Share #25 Posted May 22, 2007 This IS a sickening story, and I too am glad it ended up okay for you. I had a few specs on my sensor, so, the other day, I decided to give it a try. I was really shaking when the shutter opened. There sat the precious sensor, all glimmering green. I couldn't resolve to touch it. What I finally did was give it a couple of very gentle pass with a soft bristle lens brush. That did it. Sparkling sensor. I was lucky no spec adhered to the sensor more. Next time, I'll try that again before going the hard way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sievers Posted May 22, 2007 Share #26 Posted May 22, 2007 Anyone tried Qtips with nail polish remover or WD40? ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted May 22, 2007 Share #27 Posted May 22, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don't try this on a Canon. I had a scratch on my 5D, and when Canon found out that I use an Arctic Butterfly, their comment was basically "oh well, if you do *that*, then no wonder!" I am still struggling with them to prove to them that I did not cause this scratch, but apparently Canon thinks that anything which touches the sensor will damage it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share #28 Posted May 22, 2007 Don't try this on a Canon. I had a scratch on my 5D, and when Canon found out that I use an Arctic Butterfly, their comment was basically "oh well, if you do *that*, then no wonder!" I am still struggling with them to prove to them that I did not cause this scratch, but apparently Canon thinks that anything which touches the sensor will damage it. Interesting that they could think a soft brush culd scratch glass. Somebody there needs a basic high school physics refresher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted May 22, 2007 Share #29 Posted May 22, 2007 what a harrowing story... what a dramatic ending... I feel a screenplay is about to be written... say "The leica diaries"..... :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted May 22, 2007 Share #30 Posted May 22, 2007 Brent, the coatings on the sensor are not as tough as the glass. The IR coating may be on the front, for example. Leica is way more confident of their coatings, to the point where at least one demonstrator of the DMR has wiped the sensor with his polyester tie, to demonstrate the toughness! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted May 22, 2007 Share #31 Posted May 22, 2007 Brent, Really appreciate your sharing this so openly. I'm about the clean mine for the first time. Glad your tale of woe had a happy ending. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share #32 Posted May 22, 2007 Brent, the coatings on the sensor are not as tough as the glass. The IR coating may be on the front, for example. Leica is way more confident of their coatings, to the point where at least one demonstrator of the DMR has wiped the sensor with his polyester tie, to demonstrate the toughness! That's really all you need--A clean tie and a little bit of spit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share #33 Posted May 22, 2007 what a harrowing story... what a dramatic ending... I feel a screenplay is about to be written... say "The leica diaries"..... :D What a great idea. I wonder if I could get Tom Cruise to play me? After all, rumor has it he owns an M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_royer Posted May 22, 2007 Share #34 Posted May 22, 2007 Brent: i appreciate you sharing your experience with us. I,too, suffer from wondering how to clean my sensor and I gained some courage from your encounter with the problem and the ultimate result. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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