thighslapper Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share #161 Posted May 25, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) and another ...... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/245136-mm-m240-mm246-comparison-images/?do=findComment&comment=2821908'>More sharing options...
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thighslapper Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share #162 Posted May 25, 2015 First is 320 iso ....... second is 8000 iso and here's a shot of her vile moggie .... who used to spend most of it's time trying to scratch me but has turned over a new leaf and become a bit more sociable ..... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! again ....... 8000 iso Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! again ....... 8000 iso ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/245136-mm-m240-mm246-comparison-images/?do=findComment&comment=2821911'>More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted May 25, 2015 Share #163 Posted May 25, 2015 but here are a couple of my stepdaughter (who failed as a model Impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted May 26, 2015 Share #164 Posted May 26, 2015 His test part two is obviously failed. The amount of moire and the apparent pixel size in MM2 images tells that something has gone badly wrong in prosessing. The moire you see is from the M(240) in the comparison with the M246. Any color camera will show moire at this level of fine detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 26, 2015 Share #165 Posted May 26, 2015 thighslapper Love the shots. Like Farkas showed ISO 8000 is very easily doable with the M246. What type of PP did you do on the 8000 shots? TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share #166 Posted May 26, 2015 thighslapper Love the shots. Like Farkas showed ISO 8000 is very easily doable with the M246. What type of PP did you do on the 8000 shots? TIA Just some sharpening and NR ..... highlights down a bit on the top shot as it was under an awning and the background was blown ...... and 1 and 3 (in particular) have been cropped a fair bit. Unlike the MM1 the basic DNG's in LR seem to need very little adjustment and most look fine as is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 26, 2015 Share #167 Posted May 26, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Puts ....... this is precisely why I used real world images taken by mr. average and processed them to get the best results possible. no normal photographer just takes photos of test charts, uses unsharpened images with no NR (when it helps ...... although Puts is rather vague about precisely what he has done) and then views them at 200%. He's being Scientific . . . . and this would be a grand thing IF we all took images of test charts and developed them in Iridient (which is great, but rather subject to Moire). Fortunately we don't all take pictures of test charts. You're doing a grand job here (and it's great to see your daughter!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannes Lummes Posted May 26, 2015 Share #168 Posted May 26, 2015 The moire you see is from the M(240) in the comparison with the M246. Any color camera will show moire at this level of fine detail. No, I was referring to test part two. There is something wrong. Parts 1 and 3 show logical results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoskeptic Posted May 26, 2015 Share #169 Posted May 26, 2015 Actually I was surprised how well the M240 did, especially at ISO3200. Personally, I can't tell the difference from one image to the next until the ISO gets crazy high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 26, 2015 Share #170 Posted May 26, 2015 Actually I was surprised how well the M240 did…. I've made some gorgeous b/w prints, using both the M8.2 and M240, typically at lower ISOs. None of these cameras provide an excuse for inferior results if the image and the rest of the workflow suits. So, I'm not really surprised, but will be interested to see if the MM246 takes things up a notch without going to super high ISO. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 27, 2015 Share #171 Posted May 27, 2015 I am getting the M246 for when I want and need high ISO like 8,000-10,000 for some new projects on the drawing board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted May 27, 2015 Share #172 Posted May 27, 2015 I've had great results from the MM at up to ISO 5000, 3200 if I print large. I actually got to try the M246 yesterday and was very impressed, but was still quite impressed with my MM images the same evening. These cameras are both far better than I am at using them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 27, 2015 Share #173 Posted May 27, 2015 and another ...... How can a man be a "Grumpy Old Fart" with a daughter like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted May 28, 2015 Share #174 Posted May 28, 2015 M246 with 12mm Voigtlander. f8. 320iso. Shading correction off. Exposed towards the sky but managed to pull the shadow detail quite well. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/245136-mm-m240-mm246-comparison-images/?do=findComment&comment=2823735'>More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted June 4, 2015 Share #175 Posted June 4, 2015 3 more MM246 with Voigtlander 12mm. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/245136-mm-m240-mm246-comparison-images/?do=findComment&comment=2828068'>More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted June 5, 2015 Share #176 Posted June 5, 2015 Kudos to Thighslapper for the comparisons. I think they are fascinating, including all the many reactions. Because there is no empirical way to measure "better" or "worse" in these situations, it boils down to which look you like, and in my case, I like what I saw from the M246 so I will not cancel my order. I have to admit though, that the differences are small except in extremely high ISOs, and maybe I am seeing what I want to see exactly because I have ordered one and don't want to admit that maybe I didn't need it. Then I remind myself that this isn't at all about "need". It is about "want". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share #177 Posted June 5, 2015 The main differences become immediately apparent in usage ........ the old MM just feels antiquated and cumbersome in comparison ...... no idea if images are in focus as the screen is crappy, dodgy with long lenses or very fast lenses wide open, generally slower and fiddlier to use ...... Even if the performance was identical it would be worth changing ........... ....... and you will find the OOC images need very little PP ...... unlike my old MM images that needed a rinse with SEP2 to get the look that pleased me. The MM1 was excellent ...... the MM2 is a whole lot better on a wide range of fronts and I am sure you won't be disappointed .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 8, 2015 Share #178 Posted June 8, 2015 Latest comparisons from David Farkas…. http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2015/06/bw-iso-showdown-leica-m-monochrom-typ-246-vs-m-monochrom-m9-vs-m-typ-240/ Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted June 8, 2015 Share #179 Posted June 8, 2015 Latest comparisons from David Farkas…. http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2015/06/bw-iso-showdown-leica-m-monochrom-typ-246-vs-m-monochrom-m9-vs-m-typ-240/ Jeff Beat me to it. Looking forward to feedback on my test. Let me know if you guys have any questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted June 8, 2015 Share #180 Posted June 8, 2015 and another ...... L9000336.jpg Thanks for posting this. She's lovely and a great model! This looks better to my eyes than most CMOS photos involving skin. I look forward to seeing your comparison shots! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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