John Ricard Posted May 3, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 3, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) There's been a lot of speculation about what happens in terms of battery drain when the Leica M240 is left in "Auto Power Off (off)" mode. This is a video that shows what happens to my camera when I leave it in this mode overnight. (Not sure how to embed video in this forum). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0xyyVTeKAM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bhauck Posted May 4, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 4, 2015 Hi John, what is your experience if you break it down to the consumption in one hour? I made a quick non scientific test which resulatet in a drainge of about 10% in an hour. I also noticed that the camera gets rather warm. The later suprised me. Does your camera get rather warm if you leave like this, say for an hour or two? I had hoped that this could be the solution the the long start up time, but 5% in half an hour is just a bit too much power consumption for me. Too bad... Thx, Bernd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ricard Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted May 4, 2015 I've never noticed if the camera gets warm. But I agree that this type of battery drainage is totally unacceptable in 2015. It's especially odd considering the fact that the M9 doesn't have this problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 6, 2015 Share #4 Posted May 6, 2015 Because "Auto power off" set to "off" means the camera is always on and never went to sleep. (yes. it is double negative and there had been past thread on this). If you want it to go to sleep then set "Auto power off" to some value (as in 2 min). I can leave the camera like this for weeks without any effect on the battery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ricard Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted May 6, 2015 Because "Auto power off" set to "off" means the camera is always on and never went to sleep. (yes. it is double negative and there had been past thread on this). If you want it to go to sleep then set "Auto power off" to some value (as in 2 min). I can leave the camera like this for weeks without any effect on the battery. True, leaving it set of "off" means you won't have any battery drain. However, it also means you may have to wait 2 seconds or more many times during the shooting process. If you're doing a shoot in the studio for say, 6 hours (common for me) you may have to deal with that delay 6 or 7 times. It's super annoying and its something that you don't have to deal with on any other digital camera these days. Not even cheap ones. Not even ones you bought 7 years ago. If the M9 didn't have this problem, I don't understand why the M240 does. It's really the only step backward that Leica took with the M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 6, 2015 Share #6 Posted May 6, 2015 +1 but disabling sleep mode during (admittedly shorter than yours) shootings works fine in most occasions. Now the slow wake up times of the M240 are painful indeed. Even the M8 does 50% better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 7, 2015 Share #7 Posted May 7, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) True, leaving it set of "off" means you won't have any battery drain. However, it also means you may have to wait 2 seconds or more many times during the shooting process. If you're doing a shoot in the studio for say, 6 hours (common for me) you may have to deal with that delay 6 or 7 times. It's super annoying and its something that you don't have to deal with on any other digital camera these days. Not even cheap ones. Not even ones you bought 7 years ago. If the M9 didn't have this problem, I don't understand why the M240 does. It's really the only step backward that Leica took with the M240. Leaving "auto power off" on "off" will eat your batteries. Setting it to a value of n minutes will use the batteries during n minutes. All my digital cameras do this the same way. You either disable auto power off and live with the resulting battery drain or you enable auto power off and live with the delay it takes for waking up. My M (Typ 240) takes about two seconds to wake up. My Sony NEX 5N takes about four seconds until the EVF is alive and I can use the camera for taking pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 7, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 7, 2015 True, leaving it set of "off" means you won't have any battery drain. However, it also means you may have to wait 2 seconds or more many times during the shooting process. If you're doing a shoot in the studio for say, 6 hours (common for me) you may have to deal with that delay 6 or 7 times. It's super annoying and its something that you don't have to deal with on any other digital camera these days. Not even cheap ones. Not even ones you bought 7 years ago. If the M9 didn't have this problem, I don't understand why the M240 does. It's really the only step backward that Leica took with the M240. I agree about the annoying part but it depends on how one uses the camera. For my usage, by the time I lift the camera and look through the view finder the camera is awake (I tap the shutter if there is photo opportunity). Of course your usage is different. I disagree about the second part that you do not have to deal with this issue in other cameras. I have a cheap but relatively modern Nex-6 and the start up time is frustrating in comparison. I admit I do not know much about the latest Canikon. However, I searched for D810 and found that it does not provide you an option to keep the camera on. It's "Stand by Timer" setting ranges from 4s to 30min and there is no "off" option (as in M240) therefore no one can complain about battery drain. It could be very well that it's startup time is better than M240 but I doubt whether it will be without any delay. If there is no difference in delay in "stand by" and "wakeup from sleep" then why someone will choose 30min as stand by timer option!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ricard Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted May 7, 2015 I don't know about the D810, but the video below shows the start up time for my Nikon D3x from way back in 2008! I'd bet money that the 810 has a similar start up time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1ifwnKfjbA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 7, 2015 Share #10 Posted May 7, 2015 The start up time of my 8 y/o 5D1 is 0.2 second folks... The M240 is simply not at the level of its price here that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 7, 2015 Share #11 Posted May 7, 2015 Certainly I won't be defending M240's startup time. Even if it doesn't affect me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhauck Posted May 7, 2015 Share #12 Posted May 7, 2015 Can Leica not just hire some Sony software engineers? My back up and every day camera is a RX1-R and basically both cameras should require about the same processing power (24 MP). Maybe the Sony even more, because it has more "software". The sony is blazing fast in both points that annoy me with my MP: start up and 100% zoom for focus check. Its like night and day. But I won't complain too much. I am emotionally attached to both cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted May 7, 2015 Share #13 Posted May 7, 2015 Can Leica not just hire some Sony software engineers? Please no, Sony's software tends to be slow and full of issues. Go to Canon, their software is fast, bug free and very reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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