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Need help with my M9 and 28,50 Summicron


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So I just purchased a used M9 with both a 28 Summicron and 50 Summicron, both 6 bit coded and newer models.

Thank god my M9 is not showing and CCD corrosion.

 

My issue is with the focus at infinity on both lenses, I did some quick test at both F5.6&F8

It looks like they are both front focusing, I.e. foreground seems more sharp then towards infinity

 

Interesting I don't seem to see this issue with my older Zeiss 85/4 ZM which when turned to infinity it indeed sharp.

 

Is my issues a problem with the M9 or the 2 Summicron or both?

 

I was thinking about sending in the camera and lenses to stevecamera in Los Angeles, I live in Utah, or would it be better to send to Leica NJ?

 

Thanks

 

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It just means your lenses need to be calibrated to your camera.  I live in L.A. and have used Steve's several times with varying degrees of satisfaction, and always at considerable expense.  Lens calibration is one area where I, personally,  wouldn't recommend him.  Better choice would be Youxin Ye, or DAG, or Sherry Krauter.  Or, certainly, Leica N.J.  If you're going to ship it, ship it to the best.  I would, however, ask what the turnaround time is.  You don't want to be waiting months to get your camera and lenses back.

 

-- J 

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Test your lenses wide-open, and with a test-target at a known distance and that you can measure the focus error.

 

This will make it easier to determine the size of the error. Rangefinder lenses are usually optimized for wide-open work, normal lenses and wide-angle lenses have more focus-shift than long focal length lenses.

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It just means your lenses need to be calibrated to your camera.  I live in L.A. and have used Steve's several times with varying degrees of satisfaction, and always at considerable expense.  Lens calibration is one area where I, personally,  wouldn't recommend him.  Better choice would be Youxin Ye, or DAG, or Sherry Krauter.  Or, certainly, Leica N.J.  If you're going to ship it, ship it to the best.  I would, however, ask what the turnaround time is.  You don't want to be waiting months to get your camera and lenses back.

 

-- J 

No it does not. mean that Lenses are not calibrated to a camera. Cameras and lenses are calibrated to a common standard. The OP suggests to me that both the camera and the Zeiss lens are off, but happen to work well together. Send the whole kit to an independent repairshop to be sorted, would be my advice, as Leica will not adjust a Zeiss lens.

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Jaap.

The Zeiss is the only lens that does work as expected. It's my 2 Summicron's that are off.

I will do the test again today wide open to see where I am at.

 

Thanks

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Jaap.

The Zeiss is the only lens that does work as expected. It's my 2 Summicron's that are off.

I will do the test again today wide open to see where I am at.

 

Thanks

Which does not mean the Zeiss is correct. It just happens to be correct with the camera body that may well be incorrectly calibrated, given that two Leica lenses are similarly off.  The vast majority of newer Leica lenses are spot-on. You need to get the whole system calibrated as it is unclear where the fault lies, and it may well turn out that only the body and the Zeiss lens need work

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My issue is with the focus at infinity on both lenses, I did some quick test at both F5.6&F8

It looks like they are both front focusing, I.e. foreground seems more sharp then towards infinity

 

 

 

 

Whatever you do never ever have your camera and lenses matched only to each other, they need to be calibrated separately to the set standard.

 

What distance are you taking true infinity to be? Infinity when photographed is often softened by atmospheric haze.

 

Steve

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Which does not mean the Zeiss is correct. It just happens to be correct with the camera body that may well be incorrectly calibrated, given that two Leica lenses are similarly off.  The vast majority of newer Leica lenses are spot-on. You need to get the whole system calibrated as it is unclear where the fault lies, and it may well turn out that only the body and the Zeiss lens need work

I'm pretty sure this is what I was saying earlier in the post, Jaapv. However, you're saying that the fault must lie in the camera and Zeiss. That's likely, as cameras can fall out of adjustment easily. Not so lenses.

 

My point was - the OP should send his kit into a reputable repair facility to be calibrated. Heavy use professionals will often do this as a matter of course.

 

Cheers

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