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Hi everybody,

The other day I purchased a Quenox extension tube from Amazon and was playing around with it. It was fun to get amazing results in an easy way.

50mm Lux f 2.8

Just wanted to share.

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This is my first posting so please be gentle with me. I have been reading posts for a long time but this topic is fascinating. I want to know more!

 

Thank you for posting that image. It would be lovely to have a way of producing close up images with my Leica M-P and a variety of lenses from 35mm to 135mm.

 

Searches on Google have not been much help. Please tell us more about how you discovered this extension tube, how much it cost, and exactly what you needed to do to tell the camera's electronics that you had bypassed the system?

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Looks much neater than my DIY extension tube.

 

Can i ask how much it cost, and how long the extension is (from back flange to front) ?

 

The extension tube is about 17 mm an cost about €90,00. This is a screenshot from my cellphone.

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This is my first posting so please be gentle with me. I have been reading posts for a long time but this topic is fascinating. I want to know more!

 

Thank you for posting that image. It would be lovely to have a way of producing close up images with my Leica M-P and a variety of lenses from 35mm to 135mm.

 

Searches on Google have not been much help. Please tell us more about how you discovered this extension tube, how much it cost, and exactly what you needed to do to tell the camera's electronics that you had bypassed the system?

 

Hi pkilmister,

Lenses from 50 to 135 seem to be the best option, since the shorter the lens the closer the distance to your object has to be.

Selecting the lens in a manual way, using ether A or M mode and closing down for 1,5 f stops is the whole setup.

 

Here is another image of a Cheese mustard sandwich of my choice just before having a big bite of. :D 90mm 2.8 @f4

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Hi everybody,

The other day I purchased a Quenox extension tube from Amazon and was playing around with it. It was fun to get amazing results in an easy way.

50mm Lux f 2.8

Just wanted to share.

 

Very nice setup with the suitcases and leading to good results with the messing in the background blur!

Just one thing: you have to lie on the floor for focusing :mad:;)

Thanks for the tip on the extension ring, but that wouldn't work with the RF on an M9 or lower (because the opposite is suggested by the Amazon ad)

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The extension tube is about 17 mm an cost about €90,00. This is a screenshot from my cellphone.

 

Ah! Thanks for reminding me that I have an Oufro from back when I way playing with a Visoflex. Here, for fun, is a shot using the Oufro and the Elmarit-M 90/2.8. Wide open at minimum distance. ISO3200.

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Cheers, Carl

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After all the wise advice on here, and having received the required piece of equipment from Amazon.de, I tried a couple of test shots today. The extension makes a significant difference and, using LV, it is easy to focus on my M-P without the need to manually select the lens.

 

I was able to use a 90mm lens at very close range, far closer than specified and the results were great. Now I want to try it with a 135mm lens to see what that allows. Many thanks for the advice and I think it is 80GBP well spent to be able to have so much fun.

 

With so many flowers due to come out in the garden over the summer months having a close-up facility is essential if one wishes to record these things. Some might say that is just record keeping rather than photography. I say who cares? :rolleyes:

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Isn't it silly how you know about these things for years but never get round to using them.  I recently got a mint OUFRO 16469Y through Ebay (beautiful condition for £129.99) and have been having similar fun.  I've been aware for some time that I wanted to be able to capture small details as part of a landscape project, and this is going to give me something light, easy to carry and super useful with the lenses that I typically carry while trekking.  

When you consider the contrast between the FOV that you get with the 50 Asph at closest normal focus range with what you can get with a single OUFRO this makes such a useful addition to a Leica M set up.  NB - don't panic if the M tells you that you haven't got a lens attached!  As the OUFRO isn't coded you either have to turn off automatic lens selection or select the lens manually.  Likewise, you have to select focus magnification manually.   Not a major problem.

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I have been playing with this for the past couple of weeks as well trying to get the hang of macro. My plan for this summer is to take the M a 28mm cron & my 90mm cron and the Macro-Adapter-M on backpacking trips. Since the mushrooms and mosses are popping out here now, it seems like a good time to get some practice in.

 

My first couple of attempts at using the macro adapter really didn't work out as I'd hoped and so I decided to get more systematic regarding it.

 

The Macro-Adapter-M is a variable length extension tube. It extends in that ultra smooth German sort of way from about 18mm to 30mm.

 

Using the 90mm APO-Summicron-M which has a minimum focal distance of 1m normally I set the lens the minimum focal distance and the Macro-Adapter at its longest distance and then moved an object until it was in sharp focus then I refocused the lens at infinity and found the focal point.

 

90mm, min focus, macro max length - 44.5cm

90mm, inf focus, macro max length - 48cm

 

I sort wanted to make sure that focus worked the same direction which it does.

 

The next test for me was to figure out what affect the length of the extension tube has.

 

90mm, min focus, macro min length - 48.9cm

90mm, min focus, macro max length -  44.5cm

 

That made sense, the longer the extension tube the closer I could get to the object.

 

Next I wanted to see how the focal length of the lens affected it. All of this was done at min focus on the lens:

28mm macro min - 15.2cm

28mm macro max - 14.6cm

50mm macro min - 29.2cm

50mm macro max - 25cm

90mm macro min - 48.9cm

90mm macro max - 44.5cm

 

I was surprised at how much closer I could get with a wider lens. The thing that really surprised me was the size of the object in these shots. Somehow, I believed that with a longer lens I would have the object fill more of the frame. Instead the opposite is true. At least with my three lenses, the additional magnification by the FD of the lens didn't overcome the minimum focus limitations of the lens.

 

28mm https://goo.gl/photos/gjzSQhoNkFgxWbg57

50mm https://goo.gl/photos/ZnBuTogXvNRPL17X9

90mm https://goo.gl/photos/V2FAatkvNDcddkuY9

 

The big challenge that I (and everybody else) runs into with macro is depth of field. The thing that I have yet to really figure out is how the minimum focal distance and the depth of field interact. Without an extension tube we know that depth of field is more narrow for more telephoto lenses. We also know that depth of field becomes narrower the closer you get to your subject. So the part that I have to really test out how those two factors interact with each other. i.e. Does being closer to the subject reduce the DOF more than using a longer lens? 

 

Once I get the hang of that then it is the usual dance balancing DOF, aperture, ISO, and shutter speed.

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You got a M?

a wide?

 

Me (unfortunately in this case, but I'm happy 'bout the situation) not, so I can't do:

 

But You should:

 

just take the lens off, hold it reverse to Your cam and go macro!

The shorter the focal length, the nearer You can take pics.

The only condition is live view, nothing else!

Thomas

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