stuny Posted May 17, 2007 Share #21 Posted May 17, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Chris - This is an interesting discussion. Perhaps you can assure more helpful commentary by adding text above a posted photo stating something to the effect of, "I'm trying to learn. Please tell me how to make this image better." Then also continue to include your tag line under the photo (Comments / Criticisms welcomed). Between the two notices, maybe more people with see it and react as you prefer. some people don't notice text above photos, some don't notice text below. Some don't notice either. But you will increase your chances of people seeing the text and reacting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 17, 2007 Posted May 17, 2007 Hi stuny, Take a look here pssstt smile he's taking our photo . I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
elansprint72 Posted May 17, 2007 Share #22 Posted May 17, 2007 There are clear divisions and cliques when it comes to the photo posts on this forum....those who have been here long enough know it. As far as open critiques go - some people like them, some people hate them. I rip apart my own work on a daily basis....but not everyone would be receptive to what I might say regarding their own. I can sugar coat things with the best of them, but there are times when a bucket of ice water works best. I tend to tread lightly on this forum in that regard, because I know we have photographers that span the spectrum and I am sure most simply enjoy sharing what they have done. I don't mind critique on my work, it only helps me get better - as this is my living, I am always looking to improve. Dan, I agree with every single word that you wrote there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted May 17, 2007 Share #23 Posted May 17, 2007 Guys, Why don't we all take this issue at 'OUR BAR'... No better place IMHO ! Chris, I suggest you try out what's been given to you on your original large file, and maybe you can re post. Azzo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilyum Posted May 17, 2007 Share #24 Posted May 17, 2007 Chris, This is a charming picture in spite of the noted "defects". I love it and think the original shot is the best, warts and all. Happy snaps, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted May 18, 2007 Share #25 Posted May 18, 2007 Well I don't mind in the slightest the harshest criticism if it will help me in my quest to produce and take better photographs, DDP fire away, help me, dont use my thread to vent your opinions of what you may think others will want to hear, I posted these images as a last ditch resort to try and get some honest help from this forum, not have the world and his uncle look at my photo's and not comment. Thank you Chris, I actually prefer the dynamics of the original photo. The cropping may be a bit tight for my personal tastes and it draws attention to what I see as a lack of good detail. This is a tough situation to pull off a good shot...the lighting is difficult and exposing to get nice detail in the animals would blow the sky out. It's a fairly high contrast ratio to deal with. But poor lighting is no excuse NOT to take the shot. First thing that came to my mind was fill flash - but I will admit I am a bit programmed to think like that when doing outdoor event photography & portraits. Sometimes that's clearly not an option. What I would suggest - when possible - is to shoot when the sun is lower in the sky or on cloudy days. Vary the times of day you shoot, and see what you come up with. As long as you're getting enjoyment out of photography again after being away from it, that's the important thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samwells Posted May 18, 2007 Share #26 Posted May 18, 2007 Agree absolutely that this is a charming and witty shot...in whatever version. I believe it's almost impossible to say whether any art is 'bad' or 'good' - it all depends on the intention of the artist at the time (I recall my father's comment when I used to say, as a child, that something was 'horrible' - he replied 'It's not horrible; you mean you don't like it'). It also depends on whether a shot 'resonates' with one...I'd always search out a shot by Ralph Gibson, fr'instance, but I wouldn't give a centime for an Eggleston shot, but that's just me...it doesn't mean my opinion is better, or worse. As for cliques in the forum, I think that's in danger of being faintly pejorative...obviously there are 'divisions', which is perfectly natural and healthy, and at times downright amusing (see 'Ralph Gibson' above). And yes, there are so many posts that it's impossible to comment on all...no other reason for non-comments than that. hasta la vista... Sam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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