schmolinski Posted February 18, 2015 Share #81 Posted February 18, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I Love this camera! But what the hack is this movie button for I saw on the top plate? Not control of any setting make the video function absolutely useless ...! Unless I have to sale all my gear to acquire one I have to stick to my M and MM Have fun with your M60 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Winedemonium Posted February 18, 2015 Share #82 Posted February 18, 2015 Does the inner ring or outer ring move when you adjust the ISO? Does it click into place at each ISO setting? You move the inner ring (like Leica film cameras), and there are clear detents for different ISO levels, so it clicks into a definite ISO setting level. It feels nicely implemented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted February 18, 2015 Share #83 Posted February 18, 2015 But what the hack is this movie button for I saw on the top plate?Not control of any setting make the video function absolutely useless ...! There is no video function. I believe pressing the "video" button shows you the remaining capacity of the battery and SD card in the finder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted February 18, 2015 Share #84 Posted February 18, 2015 I Love this camera! But what the hack is this movie button for I saw on the top plate?Not control of any setting make the video function absolutely useless ...! Unless I have to sale all my gear to acquire one I have to stick to my M and MM Have fun with your M60 It`s to set time and date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 18, 2015 Share #85 Posted February 18, 2015 Main appeal, no movies, no JPGs, no menus, no LCD. Doesn't work for you? Cool - why should I worry. You shouldn't, and I don't…just banter. FWIW, I don't use movies (shut off) or JPGs (shut off), and LCD use is limited. I use the M240 as a traditional RF, similar to my 35+ years with film Ms. Others have different preferences…no big deal…but you did start a thread, presumably inviting discussion…if not, maybe it should have come with a warning. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted February 18, 2015 Share #86 Posted February 18, 2015 My friend bought an M60 and he is a great photographer. It is the only camera he uses. The craftsmanship and design of this camera are really wonderful. It is really heavy though. If you compare it to the price of a new MP and 35mm lux FLE, it is actually not that outrageous of a premium, and the stainless steel is a much more significant difference than some other expensive Leica special editions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winedemonium Posted February 18, 2015 Share #87 Posted February 18, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) My friend bought an M60 and he is a great photographer. It is the only camera he uses. The craftsmanship and design of this camera are really wonderful. It is really heavy though. If you compare it to the price of a new MP and 35mm lux FLE, it is actually not that outrageous of a premium, and the stainless steel is a much more significant difference than some other expensive Leica special editions. It's not too heavy, but I am noticing the extra weight, for sure - especially on the lens. M-P: 680g M60: 720g 35 FLE, reg: 320g 35 FLE, M60: 439g Overall though, this is only 16% extra weight - not dramatic. But it is noticeable. If I compare the M60 set up at 1159g (+ half case / strap) it is very different to a film M and compact lens combo feel. Time will tell if the weight feels like a problem for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share #88 Posted February 18, 2015 One thing I'm unsure of. What is the base ISO of this sensor? On the M9, it is 160, and the Monochrom, it's 320. The reason I ask is I want to get some sense of its sweet spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share #89 Posted February 18, 2015 One thing I'm unsure of. What is the base ISO of this sensor? On the M9, it is 160, and the Monochrom, it's 320. The reason I ask is I want to get some sense of its sweet spot. Apparently 200. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share #90 Posted February 18, 2015 Apparently 200. Thanks, John. You're welcome, John. Have a nice day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 19, 2015 Share #91 Posted February 19, 2015 If you compare it to the price of a new MP and 35mm lux FLE, it is actually not that outrageous of a premium Depends of course on one's perspective. At $18,500, one could buy (at current prices) two M240s along with the 35 Summilux ASPH, and still have $600 to spare. Or, alternatively, an M240 plus an M Monochrom plus a 35 Summilux ASPH. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 19, 2015 Share #92 Posted February 19, 2015 One thing I'm unsure of. What is the base ISO of this sensor? On the M9, it is 160, and the Monochrom, it's 320. The reason I ask is I want to get some sense of its sweet spot. As you've 'discovered', the M240 (which your core camera is for taking pics) has a base ISO of 200. It's in the one-touch set menu…oops, wrong one. Serious question….does the M60 come with a manual? If not, the M manual is downloadable for any other basic info. about the core camera. You needn't wonder about anything. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winedemonium Posted February 19, 2015 Share #93 Posted February 19, 2015 Thanks, John. You're welcome, John. Have a nice day This thread just got so much more civil. ;-) On the M240 there is a "pull" ISO level of 100 which you will find discussed on another thread. The M60 dial goes down to 200 as you know and that, as you state, is base ISO for the M240. On the other hand it will go up to "11" (6400). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share #94 Posted February 19, 2015 I think normal service resumed with Jeff asking, one assumes rhetorically, if the camera came with a manual (RTFM). I have read the manual, and missed any reference to it, or to a Pull setting, which is why I asked. As the lowest setting was 200, I had been using 400 which is faster than I want in our ozone-less summer months. Thank you for the response. Interestingly, the manual refers to the features of "your Leica T", which doesn't entirely inspire confidence! I'm shocked the core of my camera is an M(240). Who'd have thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 19, 2015 Share #95 Posted February 19, 2015 I'm shocked the core of my camera is an M(240). Who'd have thought Of course not, silly boy….I answered your not rhetorical question 5 months ago. See M manual. Or google. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share #96 Posted February 19, 2015 Ah, but you see I don't have an M(240), and I have less interest in what anyone wrote about it 5 months ago. Google did, however, come to the rescue. Thank you for your help, though. Appreciated. Just for those interested, base ISO isn't mentioned in the manual, and the follow statement appears in the notes on page 81: Generally, to protect the Leica T against ingress of dust etc. into the interior of the camera, it is important always to have a lens or a cover fi tted to the camera body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted February 19, 2015 Share #97 Posted February 19, 2015 I really like the simplistic design they used for the M60. Its so clean and simple I'd imagine it will still look in fashion through the test of time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winedemonium Posted February 19, 2015 Share #98 Posted February 19, 2015 I really like the simplistic design they used for the M60. Its so clean and simple I'd imagine it will still look in fashion through the test of time I think so too... long after the innards have conked out. In Hong Kong at the moment almost every Leica dealer has an M60 set sitting in the showroom (I have seen 6 sets). Perhaps even with only 600 sets they didn't sell that well. Prices are quite negotiable. Another little factoid... the xxx/600 numbers are not issued in chronological order of manufacture. Mine is 22x/600, and my lens and body were both made 22nd January 2015. My dealer reports that sets in the 400s were amongst the first to arrive late last year. Not very important information I know - just interesting to see how Leica manage this. It seems they are still making the M60 sets - or at least were as recently as 4 weeks ago. Perhaps like 'edition' photographic prints, Leica are reserving as much time as they need to sell these, and make them according to demand. But it surprises me that these are not already all gone. This is one of the few sets where the street price for a limited edition set is not that far above the list price for a regular M-P240 and 35 FLE. It would seem to suggest that most of the market agree with many on this forum that the M60 is a totally whacky idea - in contrast to the M9 Titanium set which sold out and appreciated in value. If Leica were 'testing the waters' for a screenless digital M, it looks to me like the market's answer is 'no thanks'. I'm glad they did the M60 though - I'm delighted with mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share #99 Posted February 19, 2015 I don't think they're making them to order. I contacted Stefan Daniel over a month ago to ask if I could have a threaded shutter release retrofitted. He said Congratulations on your new Leica! I am sorry to say that the project on R&D side is closed now, so this task becomes more difficult. Please allow me to be frank: if you could live without the cable release thread, it would make it easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 19, 2015 Share #100 Posted February 19, 2015 Ah, but you see I don't have an M(240…. Ah, but you mostly do…inside that pretty shell. You didn't get it 5 months ago either. And as far as the manual not referencing ISO, and mistakenly referencing the T, I'm not the least surprised. That's why I was quite serious asking if Leica even bothered to cobble together a manual for a special edition camera with only 600 copies. The manuals for major production models are horrible enough, let alone trying to re-write, cross reference and index a new one because of some deleted features. You're seeing the result. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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