ian moore Posted January 28, 2015 Share #1 Posted January 28, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) We use the latest ImagePrint profiles for our Epson printers which allow softproofing in Photoshop . We often softproof various papers using a black and white image with the ImagePrint profiles for those papers in order that we can view the change in the dynamic range for the various papers using the ImagePrint profiles. We are particularly interested in the change in the brightness level,and the change in the colour of white in the various papers. In Photoshop softproof , we can clearly see the differences in the white levels,and colour of paper white,using this process. Some papers have a slight blue,or yellow tint in the white level. Side by side,we can clearly see the variations. However,when we view the same black and white image in the ImagePrint window (which by default shows the image processed through the selected printer/paper profile ie softproofed),and swop between the printing paper profiles in the Color Management dialogue,there are no perceptable changes to the white level between the various papers,nor are there any colour changes to the white level,eg a slight blue,or yellow that characterises the various papers. Is there a reason for this? Appreciate that this is not directly a Leica related query but maybe someone else has spotted this issue. All help appreciated. Ian Moore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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erudolph Posted January 28, 2015 Share #2 Posted January 28, 2015 What does Colorbyte support say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian moore Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted January 28, 2015 No response as yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted January 28, 2015 Share #4 Posted January 28, 2015 If I understand you correctly, you are printing in PS using colorbyte profiles. That may account for the different "whites." Try the same papers, printing IN ImagePrint, using tiff's generated by PS. See if the whites look the same that way. I always generate tiff's and print them in IP. In my case, I generate them from Capture One. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted January 28, 2015 Share #5 Posted January 28, 2015 I wish IP profiles would soft-proof in LightRoom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian moore Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted January 29, 2015 I have received a response from ColorByte,they basically say that they use different algorithms in displaying their Imageprint profiles in Imageprint, compared to PS in their softproof mode. Not totally convinced by this as we know that different papers have different colours of white ,and softproofing should show these differences in PS ,and in Imageprint. I print from Imageprint,having imported from PS. Ian Moore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted January 29, 2015 Share #7 Posted January 29, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I agree with you, Ian, that it would be best if the IP application behaved as PS does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire53 Posted February 7, 2015 Share #8 Posted February 7, 2015 Try the same papers, printing IN ImagePrint, using tiff's generated by PS. See if the whites look the same that way. I always generate tiff's and print them in IP. In my case, I generate them from Capture One. I do exactly the same as Bill and get very good results. There is off course the obvious question about the calibration of your system, or you would never get a match between screen soft or no soft prove for good/matching results. You might want to check your viewing light of the print as well. I tried soft prove and actually never found that it matches the print. Talking to a printing professional, only if you create the profile with your printer you get a close match. Good luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
esquire53 Posted February 7, 2015 Share #9 Posted February 7, 2015 just did one more check ... IP is actually storing the profile as .icm within the application folder application - imageprint - color - *.icm so I wonder which profile LR PS and all the others are using, since they ref to *.icc profiles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted February 9, 2015 Share #10 Posted February 9, 2015 Within IP's Profile Manager, there is a menu selection for installing selected profiles for use in Adobe. This puts the .icm profiles into Adobe's Application Support/Adobe/Color/Profiles (that's the path on a Mac) making them available for use in LightRoom and Photoshop. I'm not sure how you would do this from within the IP application itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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