rob_w Posted December 15, 2014 Share #81 Posted December 15, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I like the 'snick' of the shutter ... And the weather resistance shooting today in icy rain conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rick Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share #82 Posted December 16, 2014 I like the 'snick' of the shutter ... And the weather resistance shooting today in icy rain conditions. Snick! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted December 16, 2014 Share #83 Posted December 16, 2014 I can't think of anything I dont like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted December 16, 2014 Share #84 Posted December 16, 2014 Snick! I actually like the description. Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 17, 2014 Share #85 Posted December 17, 2014 I can't think of anything I dont like. The inability to move around the frame in live view is almost unforgivable. Almost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 17, 2014 Share #86 Posted December 17, 2014 The inability to move around the frame in live view is almost unforgivable. Almost. To do what? Exposure? Focus? Why would you take all that time to mess around with navigating a screen when you can check exposure, focus and then recompose much, much faster through the viewfinder...? Navigating around the screen to check exposure and focus AFTER the shot is easily done, so I can't see that you are missing this option... you must mean prior to the photo being taken... Just a little confused... I couldn't imagine ever feeling the need to do this prior the shot in my M-P... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted December 17, 2014 Share #87 Posted December 17, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think people are refering to the inability to move the focus magnification around the frame. If the camera is being used on a tripod it would be a useful feature. That said I have never used the magnification. First I don't use live view or EVF for any lenses that couple to the rangefinder. So that leaves tele and macro, both of which I find have shallow enough DOF I can focus just fine without any magnification. In fact as there is no IS, and along with the EVF's slow refresh rate, it's just too jumpy for me to use it comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 17, 2014 Share #88 Posted December 17, 2014 Hmmm... Maybe, but I would have thought it still easier to move the camera... If you are using a tripod then the chances are you are photographing something fairly static, so speed isn't a driver... And you can release and relock a decent tripod head quicker anyway if you need to check focus and then recompose..... And anyway... To be fair... He did say 'almost'... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 17, 2014 Share #89 Posted December 17, 2014 I think people are refering to the inability to move the focus magnification around the frame. If the camera is being used on a tripod it would be a useful feature. Precisely. I know of no other camera with live view where magnification is limited to the centre. I understand that Leica would have featured scrollable live view magnification had the hardware allowed it. I doubt they'll make the same omission in the next M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 17, 2014 Share #90 Posted December 17, 2014 Hmmm... Maybe, but I would have thought it still easier to move the camera... If you are using a tripod then the chances are you are photographing something fairly static, so speed isn't a driver... And you can release and relock a decent tripod head quicker anyway if you need to check focus and then recompose..... Having spent a considerable amount of time deciding on the perfect framing for a shot why on earth would I then want to move the camera to ascertain various sensor subject distances when I could simply move the focus point and use scrollable magnification? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlinman Posted December 17, 2014 Share #91 Posted December 17, 2014 Shifting doesn't wirk wide open, because the sharpness is in a plane - so you have to refocus after moving your camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted December 17, 2014 Share #92 Posted December 17, 2014 Hey, this thread is about "Things I like about the M240". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 17, 2014 Share #93 Posted December 17, 2014 Hey, this thread is about "Things I like about the M240". OK. I like virtually everything about the M240 except the inability to move focus magnification around the frame. I believe Leica is very aware of this omission. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 17, 2014 Share #94 Posted December 17, 2014 Shifting doesn't wirk wide open, because the sharpness is in a plane - so you have to refocus after moving your camera. Only if you have a paper thin depth of field and photographing really close... and I wouldn't be using a 240 in this situation anyway... I would probably choose another camera/lens combination... In thirty of forty years I don't think I have ever had a photo rejected for publication for missed focus on a re-framing... OK. I like virtually everything about the M240 except the inability to move focus magnification around the frame. I believe Leica is very aware of this omission. Me too.. although I'm not remotely bothered about moving focus around the frame on a rangefinder camera... (Yea... I know you are talking about in LV... but you get my point about horses for courses...). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 17, 2014 Share #95 Posted December 17, 2014 Me too.. although I'm not remotely bothered about moving focus around the frame on a rangefinder camera... (Yea... I know you are talking about in LV... but you get my point about horses for courses...). You're missing the point that with live view and an EVF the M240 can now do so much more than a simple rangefinder camera. Thankfully Leica aren't as blinkered. I've no doubt that scrollable magnification will be available in the next M incarnation. I look forward to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 17, 2014 Share #96 Posted December 17, 2014 I actually ended up buying the 240 for that very reason... the alternative was to buy a used, but mint, M9 and a replace my Nikon D300 for those situations when an SLR would have been appropriate. I decided on the 240 for the VERY REASON that I could use the EVF... kind of a 'SLR solution' on a M... which I bought at the same time as the camera. Interestingly, the more I use it, the less I use the EVF and the focus peaking, which I thought I would need, given my many years with SLR's (going back to a black Spotmatic F with a Super Takumar 1.4 as a student, via Nikon F2's when I was doing a lot of band and artist photography for NME and other music papers in the seventies). The 240 is so easy to focus that I found that what I thought was going to be a very long learning curve (based on short sessions with an M8 i had borrowed with and an M9, also borrowed while I was making a final decision, later) was actually quite a lot shorter... which I think is a testament to the new M and I am extremely happy with it. Why is this forum so argumentative...? There is the sensor debate.. M9 files v M240... elitist rubbish (on both sides) on the digital v film debates... people point scoring... I dont understand it... I thought we were all people with a common interest and I thought it would be a lot more welcoming and supportive than it is. I have been on the outside of the Leica 'family' for most of my photographic life... but my Grandfather owned a Leica in the thirties (secretary of his photographic society where they were almost ALL Leica owners... as was my father after him. I am the third generation of Leica owner in my family at the age of nearly sixty. I was hoping it would have been warmer and less contentious than it seems to be... Mods... delete this if you can please... This is a very positive thread, or was. It should stay that way. Apologies. I'm clearly being over-sensitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithlaban.co.uk Posted December 18, 2014 Share #97 Posted December 18, 2014 Moving on... The thing I most like about the M240 is that despite having used many cameras over the last 50+ years it is simply the camera that has given me the greatest joy. I should add that my M9-P comes a close second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlinman Posted December 18, 2014 Share #98 Posted December 18, 2014 Shifting doesn't wirk wide open, because the sharpness is in a plane - so you have to refocus after moving your camera. Only if you have a paper thin depth of field and photographing really close... and I wouldn't be using a 240 in this situation anyway... I would probably choose another camera/lens combination... In thirty of forty years I don't think I have ever had a photo rejected for publication for missed focus on a re-framing... OK. I like virtually everything about the M240 except the inability to move focus magnification around the frame. I believe Leica is very aware of this omission. Me too.. although I'm not remotely bothered about moving focus around the frame on a rangefinder camera... (Yea... I know you are talking about in LV... but you get my point about horses for courses...). Yes, but with Nocti or 75lux and near distance like portrait you will have that problem. And these are the Situations were you need the exact focus and what has to be sharp is not in the center. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted December 24, 2014 Share #99 Posted December 24, 2014 This should be the longest thread on this forum. What, no more postings to chime in as regards to what they like about the M240? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted December 24, 2014 Share #100 Posted December 24, 2014 This should be the longest thread on this forum. What, no more postings to chime in as regards to what they like about the M240? Because we are all busy shooting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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