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All of these posts about Kodak Portra make me want to take a break from B/W and shoot color in my MP.

 

Quick question: I have 5 rolls of Portra 400 that expired expired May 2013, kept in the fridge (not freezer). Is it OK to shoot them at box speed or should I shoot them at a slower speed to compensate for the fact they are expired?

I think you can Pat I keep also films in fridge

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Henry

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Yes ...... But, in terms of time and workflow, if you get a digital and really love the picture you can then go to a more expensive route and either have a high end drop scan and/or have someone (or yourself) print the picture from the negative. Scanning doesn't eliminate the negative, it just gives you a very pliable way to look at your photo. In truth, I do very little with my shots from film unless the exposure and/or white balance is way off.

You're right Steve

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most of all i would to thank Henry and Pete for taking your time to educate us on this subject and sharing your passion for film. I find every bit of this useful and I really appreciate it. Best, Adam

 

Henry's passion and commitment to film is admirable and especially in a world currently fixated on the hyperreal resolution of digital. Although that also seems to be shifting not only with more people using film, but with the increasing popularity of software presets like VSCO for many digital users (who seem just a bit too impatient to use actual film :))

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very nice, Henry. The color is one of the nicest wildlife imges I've seen from you. The color scheme has a gentleness to it, and at the same time very real. the B&W conversion is nice as well, but I think the color is more special.

Thank you Adam for your comment.

.... and if I tell you that this image comes out of the scanner in Tiff with standard setting (calibrated Red Green Blue) and then

directly converted to Jpeg to post.

I have not corrected on LR, not the case for the M8-9.

 

Kodak Portra not only has a fine grain but renders beautifully and faithfully the color of poppy.

It is a flower that I love and every year in April, I take pictures of this flower in digital and film.

For "softness" and "no smooth edges" as I said above , this is the film that makes it better, not digital !

For the poppy picture , you're right, the color is better. It is a joyful flower and it's a shame to see it in b&w , look at these links :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdLh0K_E_dI

pub parfum Flower by Kenzo 2013 [HQ] - Vidéo Dailymotion

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As promised....

 

Kodak Portra 400

Leica M7 Apo Summicron 90 Asph

Monopod

Uncropped

 

I would like to add something important:

1- In my experience of 5 years of M8 and M9, the conversion of the digital "color > b&w" is significantly higher for the film

with more relief because the gray scale is more nuanced and richer (more details and information on the film than on the sensor)

2- flower petals are "thicker" and "softer " in film versus digital, with "non-smooth edges" (digital characteristics)

 

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Which you prefer ? :)

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Henry

 

As promised here a picture taken with M9 and Apo Summicron 90 Asph , the same lens as in the picture attached above ,

notice a smooth edges of the poppy petal, not real at all ... and excessive finesse (not thick) of the petal , kind of "cigarette paper" :mad:

Same case when you look at the "edge" of the face (portrait)

 

.... one encouraging point , the color of the M9 is like Kodak Portra ... or almost :)

 

I love poppies and I can tell you that I know very well this beautiful flower :)

 

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Leica M9

Apo Summicron 90 Asph

 

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I forget to post this link from Kodak :

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/e4050/e4050.pdf

Notice that Kodak wrote at the beginning ... "At true Iso 400"

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Henry

Henry,

Your photographic work and advice are so good you've almost reconciled me to my M7.

I am also very grateful to you for starting the "I like film" Sticky thread in the OTHER section. Now I don't have to wade through countless digital images on the Leica Forum, I can view excellent film images in one thread!

 

Regarding Portra's speed, the DX coding on the Portra film cartridge indicates that, shooting at ISO 400, the Exposure Tolerance is + 3 stops/ -1 stop. When I see this on C41-process film, exposing the middle value of a low to normal contrast scene at ISO 200 has worked the best for me as it gives me two stops of visible detail on either side of a close to neutral value. For high contrast scenes I meter at ISO 800 on an dark object in which I want at least a minimum of visible detail and use that meter value to expose.

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Your photographic work and advice are so good you've almost reconciled me to my M7.

I am also very grateful to you for starting the "I like film" Sticky thread in the OTHER section. Now I don't have to wade through countless digital images on the Leica Forum, I can view excellent film images in one thread!

 

Regarding Portra's speed, the DX coding on the Portra film cartridge indicates that, shooting at ISO 400, the Exposure Tolerance is + 3 stops/ -1 stop. When I see this on C41-process film, exposing the middle value of a low to normal contrast scene at ISO 200 has worked the best for me as it gives me two stops of visible detail on either side of a close to neutral value. For high contrast scenes I meter at ISO 800 on an dark object in which I want at least a minimum of visible detail and use that meter value to expose.

Thanks for your reply and comment.

You are welcome in the film thread. So don't forget to post your pictures. Thanks :)

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-110.html

Faithful color of Kodak Portra reminds me a lot color of M8/M9 , without the inconvenience of digital

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Henry

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Regarding Portra's speed, the DX coding on the Portra film cartridge indicates that, shooting at ISO 400, the Exposure Tolerance is + 3 stops/ -1 stop.

 

CORRECTION: The DX coding on the Portra film cartridge indicates speed ISO 400 and Exposure Tolerance +/- 1 stop. I regret my original error.

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