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gbealnz

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gbealnz

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I'm an old timer, first job in the late 60's was a lab worker, and am happy shooting/processing film.

For the last few years I have been smitten by the instantness of digital, and have a smattering of digital Leicas.

I also have an old Leicaflex SL, and also an M6 coming, it will be here in a few days.

Intention is to shoot more and more film, and silly as it sounds, I find the processing etc "therapeutic". Crazy I know.

 

Right, problem begins when I want to do something with the images. Yes I can and do wet print them, but for sharing on the interweb, what happens? I am looking at a cheaper film scanner, Plusteck or similar, or possibly will try the bellows unit and "scan" with a digital camera. I suppose I can also "scan" the print by shooting it with a digital camera.

 

I'm trying to accomplish this with minimal funds being outlaid, so any suggestions would be appreciated. I had a line on a couple of the aforementioned Plustecks, but the shipping costs associated with the auction site made them un-workable. To use my Leitz bellows I will need a fitting to accept my LTM enlarging lenses, something I don't have.

 

Anyway, relate how you go about this, and hopefully I can gain some insight.

Gary

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Gary, nice to see you in film thread. To post pictures and in the future if you do MF , just a suggestion , look at this thread . It is a participation of all members of LUF, lovers of beautiful (faithful) color and black and white film. :) ... and I add V700 is very good for b&w :

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/film-forum/160651-epson-v700-750-very-good-our.html

You can find now this scanner cheaper in second hand

Best

Henry

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I agree with Henry, an Epson V700 scanner would be ideal for you. It is a flatbed scanner, so you will be able to make darkroom prints and then scan those prints for presentation on the web. Or you can use it as a film scanner, it isn't so great scanning high resolution 35mm negatives, but for web scanning it is good enough, and it is really good for scanning medium format film or larger.

 

Given the price it is a good way into scanning and as it is a flatbed it wouldn't be any less useful if you later got a dedicated film scanner, they can work alongside each other.

 

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I also agree on the V700. My lab history also dates from the mid 1960s, and after 20 years without a darkroom I've again set one up and am shooting more B&W film, and doing some wet prints. But the V700 Photo will scan in 24 frames at once, and does a pretty good job for pictures to share electronically. I'll scan each roll instead of doing a contact sheet, use the scans for digital sharing, and select any I want to make real prints from the negatives.

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Thank you Doc, Steve, and Tom, greatly appreciated.

I'm working my way through the pages you linked to Doc, and will assess what I do from there.

The flatbed didn't appeal simply as I thought it too hard for 35mm sized scans, but as has been pointed out, for web use it would/should be fine.

Anything bigger, simply wet print, or if it's a stunner, send it out for a "proper" job.

Thanks again. You guys really know how to spend my money.

Gary

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Well guys, a bit of an update. Disastrous it was too.

 

I had my mind set on an Epson of some flavour, and locally a used Plusteck came up, an OpticFilm 7200i. Decent price too, so I grabbed it.

 

Problem is, the SilverFast software (Ver 6.5) has already been registered, so this is the first issue. Then I find, perhaps (hopefully) incorrectly, that the scanner, the software, and my operating system (OSX 10.9.5) won't all play nicely together.

 

I have an enquiry in progress with the SilverFast people to hopefully upgrade to Ver 8, but right now I have a flash paper-weight, not sure what to do. I have posted a "MayDay" on the RFF, but if anyone here has a bright idea, please say so.

Gary

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You don't need the Silverfast software. You do need the Plustek OSX driver, available for download from the Plustek site. You need this do that the OS can 'see' the scanner.

 

For scanning software suggest you purchase a copy of VueScan from Ed Hamrick. It's a lot cheaper than buying a replacement of SilverFast, and, in my opinion, better too.

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Cheers Simon.

This has been driving me nuts all afternoon, I'm over it.

Two choices. Persevere, or flog the scanner and start all over.

Right now, retire for the night and forget about this headache.

 

I did look at Vuescan, but it looked similar, no OSX compatibility. I didn't want to e mail Ed Hamrick with such a trivial issue, and he was quite specific, provide a log, I couldn't even get it to work, let alone produce a log.

 

Hopefully SilverFast V6.5 can be updated, but either way the 7200i still won't work on OSX by the look of it.

Gary

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VueScan definitely works on OSX - I use it. You can download and view a tutorial here http://www.hamrick.com/download.html

 

If you have a Windows install CD or ISO, you could download VirtualBox and have a virtualised instance of Windows running for your scanner. But it's probably less hassle to buy a newer version of the scanner - I have the 8200SE and it works very well with OS X and was a lot cheaper than my V700.

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I agree, I have the demo version on the Mac, it opens up OK.

BUT.......... the 7200i does not work with the Mac, the "Technical Information" states so, unfortunately.

 

Windows:Yes Mac:No Linux:No USB:Yes

 

I don't have a Windoze CD, and really, I don't want to go down that route anyway, I am not really a WinPerson.

Thank you for your help though.

Gary

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I agree, I have the demo version on the Mac, it opens up OK.

BUT.......... the 7200i does not work with the Mac, the "Technical Information" states so, unfortunately.

 

Windows:Yes Mac:No Linux:No USB:Yes

 

I don't have a Windoze CD, and really, I don't want to go down that route anyway, I am not really a WinPerson.

Thank you for your help though.

Gary

 

 

There's no Mac OS driver support for the 7200/7200i. Note Silverfast's response in this thread (second post.) Mac OS X and Plustek OpticFilm 7200i : OSX - Problems There's a work around (see the third post) but you'd still have to run Windows (VirtualBox as mentioned already by DigitalHeMan above) on your Mac.

 

btw, apparently Silverfast will re-assign a license for their software on a second hand Plustek scanner that was originally supplied with Silverfast's software:

"The original owner must contact LaserSoft Imaging and provide the name and email address of the new owner. LaserSoft Imaging will transfer the licence to the new owner. The new owner can buy discs from LaserSoft Imaging if they wish. If the original owner does not contact LaserSoft Imaging, the new owner can buy SilverFast at the upgrade price."

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There's no Mac OS driver support for the 7200/7200i. Note Silverfast's response in this thread (second post.) Mac OS X and Plustek OpticFilm 7200i : OSX - Problems There's a work around (see the third post) but you'd still have to run Windows (VirtualBox as mentioned already by DigitalHeMan above) on your Mac.

 

btw, apparently Silverfast will re-assign a license for their software on a second hand Plustek scanner that was originally supplied with Silverfast's software:

"The original owner must contact LaserSoft Imaging and provide the name and email address of the new owner. LaserSoft Imaging will transfer the licence to the new owner. The new owner can buy discs from LaserSoft Imaging if they wish. If the original owner does not contact LaserSoft Imaging, the new owner can buy SilverFast at the upgrade price."

 

 

Yep, that's the same link I already provided above ;)

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