patrick parker Posted January 19, 2015 Share #161 Posted January 19, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes- but then you are disabling the hybrid part, and as a non-hybrid, the Leica OVF is simply better. Nope. I'm talking about the Fuji x100t. Also it has a built in diopter and the way it fits between your eyesocket and nose is even better than M6 this makes it super sturdy. You can easily use it 1/8th with no problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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patrick parker Posted January 19, 2015 Share #162 Posted January 19, 2015 Sometimes you want a little blown highlight to get the film look. rangefindercamera : Photo MM No you don't. What you want is the choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2015 Share #163 Posted January 19, 2015 Nope. I'm talking about the Fuji x100t. Also it has a built in diopter and the way it fits between your eyesocket and nose is even better than M6 this makes it super sturdy. You can easily use it 1/8th with no problems. Depends on your nose, I would say I finally found the reason why I have no problems with long shuttertimes and others have.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted January 19, 2015 Share #164 Posted January 19, 2015 Depends on your nose, I would say I finally found the reason why I have no problems with long shuttertimes and others have.... Listen Cyrano , even if you used that thing as a monopod 1/8th wouldn't come out sharp with a monochrom. Shutter vibration wouldn't allow it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dant Posted January 19, 2015 Share #165 Posted January 19, 2015 No you don't. What you want is the choice. Choice is fine, but the MM does not give it. MM gives you blown highlights with normal settings. You must 2nd guess the MM. you have to fight it like a Fuji when it comes to blown highlights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2015 Share #166 Posted January 19, 2015 Listen Cyrano , even if you used that thing as a monopod 1/8th wouldn't come out sharp with a monochrom. Shutter vibration wouldn't allow it. It does - I once posted a series of ten consecutive M8 shots @ 1/6th using a 35 - three were really sharp, six usable at smaller print size and one blurred... No problem here- you just don't have the same nose genes that I have... But maybe if you start telling fibs the situation might improve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted January 19, 2015 Share #167 Posted January 19, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) It does - I once posted a series of ten consecutive M8 shots @ 1/6th using a 35 - three were really sharp, six usable at smaller print size and one blurred... You lie! You must have used a tripod or some other body part besides your nose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2015 Share #168 Posted January 19, 2015 No - my nose hasn't grown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2015 Share #169 Posted January 19, 2015 Here you are: 1/8th hand-held, just now: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/235810-new-monochrom-merged/?do=findComment&comment=2749567'>More sharing options...
patrick parker Posted January 19, 2015 Share #170 Posted January 19, 2015 Here you are: 1/8th hand-held, just now: I need to see the nose. You don't fool me one bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2015 Share #171 Posted January 19, 2015 No tricks, I assure you. I'm sure my patients like me to have a steady hand. Don't forget I often use a microscope. It is just a matter of training. My eye-surgeon beats me at it by a fair margin though. A few weeks ago he took out 16 microscopically small stitches from my eye without touching the eyeball with the tweezers and cutter once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanetomlane Posted January 19, 2015 Share #172 Posted January 19, 2015 : A few weeks ago he took out 16 microscopically small stitches from my eye without touching the eyeball with the tweezers and cutter once. Did you have to Jaapv, it's nearly time for dinner? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Teski Posted January 21, 2015 Share #174 Posted January 21, 2015 Good discussion. I actually just pulled the trigger on a "new" Monochrom this weekend. My local Leica store got a silver QM2 stock MM in, and I couldn't resist. For those who don't know, QM2 devices are models that Leica had to send back for something (sometimes an RF adjustment) and they tend to have some very minor blemish on them. I've looked at this unit many times and can't find anything up with it, and I was able to get it for $5650 after the $750 instant rebate on the cameras, and it has the full 2-year warranty like a brand new unit would. I also have an M-P 240 and yes I have to carry different batteries and such now, but I love the output of the current MM and at that price, how could I pass it up. I get to shoot with an MM now, and I'm sure the new one will be at least $8K if not more given the prices of the M-P 240. So far, I'm really happy with it but I will say that shutter is really clunky compared to the new M. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramosa Posted January 21, 2015 Share #175 Posted January 21, 2015 That's a great price. I think I would have bitten, too. Good discussion. I actually just pulled the trigger on a "new" Monochrom this weekend. My local Leica store got a silver QM2 stock MM in, and I couldn't resist. For those who don't know, QM2 devices are models that Leica had to send back for something (sometimes an RF adjustment) and they tend to have some very minor blemish on them. I've looked at this unit many times and can't find anything up with it, and I was able to get it for $5650 after the $750 instant rebate on the cameras, and it has the full 2-year warranty like a brand new unit would. I also have an M-P 240 and yes I have to carry different batteries and such now, but I love the output of the current MM and at that price, how could I pass it up. I get to shoot with an MM now, and I'm sure the new one will be at least $8K if not more given the prices of the M-P 240. So far, I'm really happy with it but I will say that shutter is really clunky compared to the new M. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fore Posted January 21, 2015 Share #176 Posted January 21, 2015 I'm absolutely floored by the MM's b&w images. Why was the magnification dial removed? Do you all have a hard time ensuring you got the shot properly focused before moving on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BjarniM Posted February 8, 2015 Share #177 Posted February 8, 2015 Leica News & Rumours is guessing the new Monochrom will hit the market in february/march: Rumors: the new Leica Monochrom camera will be announced in February/March Does anyone in this forum have insights? What's your guess/opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmobile Posted February 8, 2015 Share #178 Posted February 8, 2015 I think the M9 based MM will benefit more from the evolutionary upgrade to the M240 platform than the M9 to M240 did. There will be no colour issues (!) and the additional DR will be welcome, although MM files are already ridiculously flexible. The existing MM is close and the M240 platform may just tick all the remaining boxes. If the M240 MM gets the same ISO quality boost of about 1.5 stops compared to the M9 Mono, you will be able to shoot at 1600-2500 and get results that look like base ISO in some cams. This does remarkable things for what you can shoot, for lack of need for a tripod. ISO 10,000 could be darned good. Is the metering better on the M240 than MM/M9? If so, this will be a welcome addition. Its not just the lack of highlight recovery options but its alliance with a relatively crude metering system in the MM that can make it tough to handle in rapidly changing light. Under more controlled shooting,its easy, but when things change fast and you only have one shot to catch the moment. I have a MM which I doubt I will sell. Oddly, I am more interested in the M240 Mono as a second body than I am in a M240 successor. Can't wait to see what Leica comes up with... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmobile Posted February 8, 2015 Share #179 Posted February 8, 2015 This can be true and to begin it 'did my head in', but once one accepts dialling in negative comp a lot of the time, it is fine. This should mean you are taking a step back for each step forward the MM gives you, but I find it more a case of three forwards and one back. I still seem to come out way ahead with MM files even if I have more neg comp than required. I agree that it is a nuisance and more intelligent metering would help a lot here. I am assuming the additional DR of the M240 CMOS would also make a lot of difference here, as for a given highlight, there will be more exposure in the shadows, meaning less of a push required to bring the shadows into line when exposing to retain highlights. Choice is fine, but the MM does not give it. MM gives you blown highlights with normal settings. You must 2nd guess the MM. you have to fight it like a Fuji when it comes to blown highlights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share #180 Posted February 19, 2015 While I am still fairly confident that a CMOS-based successor to the M Monochrom will come some day, I have no idea when that will be and what the camera will look like. And I guess that if a press release was imminent then I would know by this time. Not imminent ,but I heard something different: end 2015. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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